Diesel SUV fans (with money to spend) have had some good news this week. First we had the confirmation from Porsche that a diesel Cayenne would come to the states next year and now we have news out of Detroit that soon the Jeep Grand Cherokee will be available in oil-burning trim.
Jeep is furthering its commitment in the US by building the new Jeep at the Jefferson North Assembly Plant in Detroit. This will add another 1,100 workers and help boost production of the Cherokee and the Durango.
bodyblue says:
12:57 PM, 01/ 6/12
Diesels make sense for SUVs and trucks.....for cars? Not so much. They are not needed for cars since few people tow with small cars anyway and we do not need more particulates in the air (the main component of air pollution).
moparbad says:
01:43 PM, 01/ 6/12
Main source of particulate pollution is dust by a factor of 12X to 13X.
Let's ban dust.
United States has the most stringent air pollution standards for light duty trucks and passenger cars of any nation in the world. Vehicles that meet these standards are fine. They are needed to reduce fuel use as diesels are very efficient.
Cars do make sense with diesel. http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1069881_2012-volkswagen-passat-tdi-greencarreports-best-car-to-buy-2012-nominee
bodyblue says:
04:13 PM, 01/ 6/12
No they dont
http://www.grinningplanet.com/2005/04-12/diesel-vs-gasoline-article.htm
You are using a non sequitur, Nice try. Diesels spew more particulates added to the air than gas engines...its a fact. Putting up more particulates pollutes more than gas engines....its a fact. By making diesels more clean means they get less MPGS thus reducing the arguments for them. The less particulates the better. Far better to force the change to CNG for heavy duty applications. Diesels are not the answer for cars.
Oh and the article you linked is a huge joke. Read my link...it is actually scientific not political.
bodyblue says:
04:17 PM, 01/ 6/12
I forgot to include on of the most important knocks against this diesel fad and the bs that surrounds it.
"The improved efficiency of diesel engines can also help reduce oil consumption. It should be noted, however, that it takes about 25% more oil to make a gallon of diesel fuel than a gallon of gasoline, so we should really look at how a vehicle does on fuel efficiency in terms of "oil equivalents." Thus, we need to adjust the mileage claims for diesel vehicles downward by about 20% when comparing them to gasoline-powered vehicles."
These are the types of articles that car mags dont like people to see because it punches holes in their lust for diesel station wagons from Europe. Many think that just because Europe uses more diesels then they must be better.....but they are not...Europe is just forced to use them because of tax policy. If one really has an open mind then the truth is self evident.
firstwagon says:
10:58 PM, 01/ 6/12
Political nonsense aside, anyone know which diesel engine they are using?
transpower says:
06:19 AM, 01/ 7/12
I think this is very, very good news. Modern Diesels are efficient and far less polluting than their ancestors. The quote from grinningplanet.com is from the "Union of Concerned Scientists"--a far Left group.
From Motor Trend: The engine is expected to be the same 3.0-liter turbo-diesel V-6 offered in Europe, which produces 237 hp and 406 lb-ft of torque. It should be significantly more fuel efficient than the Grand Cherokee’s gasoline engines; in Europe, the diesel Jeep is rated at the equivalent of 28 combined mpg.
Read more: http://wot.motortrend.com/chrysler-confirms-diesel-jeep-grand-cherokee-for-2013-adds-1100-jobs-in-detroit-153707.html#ixzz1imYPEou6
dougnash2009 says:
08:50 AM, 01/ 7/12
My bickering little friends:
My rear end puts out 20x more particulate than either gas or diesel engines.
So, put that in your pipes and smoke it.
bodyblue says:
09:47 AM, 01/ 8/12
lol...