Scion FR-S, Toyota FT-86: Yet More Images Leaked, Plus TRD Accessories Info

The FR-S is already at SEMA. Edmunds has a photo of it at http://www.insideline.com/features/2011-sema-show-cars-pictures.html#non-makeotot103111121

Look in the central hall. It is red and it looks great.

This is totally photoshoped, look at that rear wheel. Come on guys. I'm sick of this car, they took so long to release it im bored, moved on.

"I'm sick of this car, they took so long to release it im bored, moved on."

Really? Fact check:

1. The first FT-86 prototype shows up on 10/2009, if my math is correct, that was only 2 years ago.

2. Took Nissan longer to go from GT-R concept to production car...

"The FR-S is already at SEMA."

That one is still the concept, this is the production version which will show up in the Tokyo Motor Show.

Louiswei I get where u are coming from but even u have to admit they needed this car a few years ago it doesnt lead the competition it follows it

Also a sidenote the suburu sti version will be more relevant if they can keep the price down

@ windsor5,

Who is selling a light weight RWD coupe with fantastic handling and decent acceleration @ $25k?

If straight line acceleration is all you care about then please ignore this car and go stright to your local Hyundai/Dodge/Chevy/Ford dealerships.

@gtrguy2012

01:39 PM, 11/ 2/11

This is totally photoshoped, look at that rear wheel. Come on guys. I'm sick of this car, they took so long to release it im bored, moved on.

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Wow man. Really? Then what the hell are you doing on this thread? And no SH!T it's Photoshop. It's for a catalog. Go away guy.

"a fully adjustable suspension setup that would let you change up the ride height and damping for track day use"

I don't want to be the laughingstock by bringing this car to the track.
This car seems NICE but not serious enough for the track and it will slow down others.

@windsor5 says

Louiswei I get where u are coming from but even u have to admit they needed this car a few years ago it doesnt lead the competition it follows it

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There is no RWD coupe like this out right now for $25k. Show me one? And not relevant? I mean, what do you base that on?

$25K would seem to be a bit optimistic on the pricing; the Subie version reportedly will start around $28K.

Also, Kia will debut a 4 cyl-powered 2+2 coupe concept early next year and Mazda is supposedly working on a cheaper successor to the RX-7/8 - so this market niche will be getting more crowded in the not so distant future.

@graspthefact

"I don't want to be the laughingstock by bringing this car to the track.
This car seems NICE but not serious enough for the track and it will slow down others."

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YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME with this statement!!?? This is so moronic I don't even know how to respond. It's super lite, has great handling, super low center of gravity and 200hp. And according to you it's not serious enough for a track car? Are you right in head?

If you think a track car is all about power then you have it all wrong.

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME with this statement!!?? This is so moronic I don't even know how to respond

Clearly Not!

Have you ever been to the track?
Maybe you are one of those annoying ricedout honda/toyota driver who doesn't know how to drive.

Its lite but its not super light. weight/power ratio is not that great(of course scion is better than corolla's but so what)! I drive GT3 on the track and I fking hate those econobox blocking my way. I try to enjoy the drive but I get tired of dodging those road blocks (AKA toyota).

Do you self a favor and remove yourself from the track. And bring your corolla with you.

@louiswei

How can you tell that a car (that hasnt even gone into production yet) has fantastic handling with out driving it? Havent even seen any first drives or test drives from auto journalist either.

And Mazda is still selling its RX8 @ $26k i think. Not sure on the weight, but even Edmunds and other sites have called it lightweight. Fantastic handling and decent acceleration? Well just read all of its reviews.

"How can you tell that a car (that hasnt even gone into production yet) has fantastic handling with out driving it? Havent even seen any first drives or test drives from auto journalist either."

There are at least two articles about driving the prototypes, Google it.

However, you are right, ASSUMING that it has fantastic handling then there is nothing like it currently on the market. The lightest RX-8 weighs 3065 lbs, which is a full 400 lbs heavier than the lightest FR-S based on the leaked specs.

We'll just have to wait and see exactly how good the FT-86 duo handle, however, based on articles I've been reading, I have no doubt that it will be fantastic.

"I drive GT3 on the track and I fking hate those econobox blocking my way."

1. Last time I was at the track, a 911S was holding up a modded WRX...
2. If you are driving a GT3 and can't get around econoboxes easily then I think the driver might be the problem. Just saying...

1. Last time I was at the track, a 911S was holding up a modded WRX...
So? Your point?

2. If you are driving a GT3 and can't get around econoboxes easily then I think the driver might be the problem. Just saying...
who said I can't?
I get around easily whenever there is a room to do it safely. I don't want stupid Lexus hitting my GT3, clearly they don't know why they are there.

"I get around easily whenever there is a room to do it safely."

There you go, problem solved!

Unless you own the track then everyone is equal on the track, whether one drives a Ferrari or an "econobox"... If you always get caught up behind slow cars then maybe you should try a higher class or try different track day organizers what focus more on high end dedicated track going cars. At the very least, you can voice your concerns to the organizer, bitching about the "econoboxes" on IL isn't going to get you anywhere.

145 hp/150 lb/ft?

uhh........ I'm okay with light and nimble over horsepower, but yeesh, that's kind of sad. 170 would be nice.

"145 hp/150 lb/ft?"

Where did you see 145 hp?

147 kw/200 PS = 197 hp

Well, this car hasn't been released yet so we don't really know how fast or slow it is at this point in time. There is really no use getting in too big of an argument over it.

Still, considering the mission of this car and how seriously these two automakers are taking the project, I will say that its pretty safe to assume that its going to be worthy of driving around a road course. Thanks for the laugh though.

Just because a car is slower than your GT3 class car, that doesn't mean that the slower car is a laughing stock that doesn't belong on a track. When you go to a race track and do hot laps, you need to respect the other drivers and share the track with them.

(1) Wow! the car has 200hp people

(2) This is going to be a decent sporty car. For the price... it'll be hard to beat.

god, I don't know why people have to flaunt their GT3 and said this car is too slow to be a track car? are you just flaunting you have a GT3 and no one should drive a car on the track?

I am thinking a go kart that go 35 mph top speed on a indoor kart track are 100 time more like a track car than your GT3, and you have no right of saying that is too slow for you and blocking you because you have more power...just saying

A GT3 driver, eh? Sure you are. I think you're on the wrong forum, buddy. 6SpeedOnline is somewhere else.

Why would you care to comment about a cheap RWD "econobox" if you have yourself a mighty GT3? I know I sure as heck wouldn't.

Callin BS here. Heck I bet you can't even drive a stick.

If you are a Porsche driver, you're the asshat to end all Porsche asshats.

Altezza lights never looked good on any car.

They look cheap and distasteful (the complete opposite of the 86). Better stick to full on red.

Still prefer the Subaru version but I'm liking the LF-A Esq front end of the Toyota.

Well, judging by all the contention this car has drummed up here and elsewhere, I'd say MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, Subota Toybaru! I normally reserve full judgement 'til after I actually drive something, but it'd be pretty hard for either Toyota or Subie to dick this one up. It's got all the tools to be something special. The worst thing about it will probably be the inexperienced boy-racer douchebags who will inevitably tack unnecessary wings, scoops, stickers, fartcans and LEDS all over it.

louiswei--

whoops you are right. still, 150 lb/ft of torque does next to nothing for me.

"I drive GT3 on the track and I fking hate those econobox blocking my way. I try to enjoy the drive but I get tired of dodging those road blocks (AKA toyota)."

I think he means Gran Turismo 3 on playstation.