Lexus has been teasing the 2013 GS 350 F Sport for what feels like forever and will finally pop the cork on the hot new GS next week at SEMA.
By "hot" we mean "mildly tuned." The F Sport Package adds 19-inch wheels running 235/40R19 all-season tires on AWD cars and staggered 235/40R19 and 265/35R19s on rear-drive cars, F Sport tuned adaptive suspension, bigger anti-roll bars, new bushings and larger front brakes with high-friction pads. Rear drive cars also benefit from variable ratio steering. The interior also gets a unique treatment with F Sport exclusive Cabernet Red leather. The GS F Sport also gets Lexus' new Dynamic Handling system with Dynamic Rear steering.
The 3.5-liter V6 still cranks out 306 horsepower and Lexus estimates this will get the 3,715 lb (3,890 with AWD) GS 350 F Sport to 60 in 5.7 seconds. Top speed is electronically limited to 142 mph.
Read our first drive of the 2013 Lexus GS 350 here. More on the GS 350 F Sport after the jump.
louiswei says:
03:57 PM, 10/25/11
I am sure the handling of the GS F-sport will be among the class leaders but am kind of disappointed that it offers no power increase over the regular model. Lexus needs to work harder for the new IS, to carry over a 7-year-old engine (although its still one of the finest in the class, if not the best) is really not an option imo.
billt9 says:
06:09 PM, 10/25/11
Who crashed the car right before the photoshoot?
cr_driver says:
07:27 PM, 10/25/11
Looks quite aggresive, what`s the premium?
ptcdawg says:
07:53 PM, 10/25/11
I like it, but not a serious step up from the GS with the V8, IMHO.
ne1butu2 says:
08:01 PM, 10/25/11
Looks like a Camry with a hideous bunch of mangled plastic on the front. I do like the wheels though. But this car screams "Pontiac Grand Am GT" with all the go-fast appearance crap on it.
louiswei says:
08:02 PM, 10/25/11
@ ptcdawg,
There won't be a V8 regular (sans the possible F model) GS anymore, at least not for this generation.
louiswei says:
08:20 PM, 10/25/11
"But this car screams "Pontiac Grand Am GT" with all the go-fast appearance crap on it."
Yeah, because the same thing can be said to the BMW 3er/5er M-sport package... Both the F-sport and M-sport packages offer actual performance upgrade and they are meant to umm... go fast.
ne1butu2 says:
08:29 PM, 10/25/11
"Yeah, because the same thing can be said to the BMW 3er/5er M-sport package..."
Every brand offers their sporty versions. What I meant was that this looks completely juvenile and amateurish. The front end is a huge piece of grotesquely nightmarish molded plastic. Nowhere close to anything that you would expect from the cars you mentioned.
financeman2 says:
08:35 PM, 10/25/11
Nice looking car except a front end that looks like something out of a science fiction movie. Way too many angles.
louiswei says:
08:41 PM, 10/25/11
"this looks completely juvenile and amateurish. The front end is a huge piece of grotesquely nightmarish molded plastic. Nowhere close to anything that you would expect from the cars you mentioned.
You have your opinion and I respect that but lets not forget that beauty is the eye of the beholder.
Personally I like the aggressive and unique look but I really care more about how the new GS stack up against others in the class. We all know that this is a major improvement in terms of performance over the current model but as we all know, that's really not exactly a tall order... Can't wait for the upcoming midsize luxury sedan comparo!
blackdynamite1 says:
09:53 PM, 10/25/11
Looks pissed off, Man!
BD
agentorange says:
12:19 AM, 10/26/11
Are those brake ducts or photon torpedo launchers? This is what happens when you cross a Romulan Warbird with a Lexus.. and I sorta like it. The previous GS was so anonymous it was the perfect car for the stalker who likes luxury. Plush and invisible.
emajor says:
04:36 AM, 10/26/11
Good looking car. I have a little trouble with the overwrought front bumper, but otherwise a nice looking piece inside and out. Hopefully Lexus is this serious about the next IS as well.
throwback says:
07:08 AM, 10/26/11
I'm not a fan of Lexus cars (except the LFA) but I like the styling of this car. The interior in particular looks as good as anything Audi has currently. If this car is as good a driver as the prototype drives indicate, Lexus may finally have a car that can run with the Germans and CTS from a dynamic handling stand point.
mrgold78 says:
08:44 AM, 10/26/11
Hmmmm. If this "F Sport Package" adds no power increases then what does the "F" stand for here? The Lexus GS350 "FAKE" Sports package.
I hope people here realize that this car will be slower than its own predecessor the GS460. On top of that it is in no way even comparable to what the Europeans like BMW M or Mercedes AMG do. What's the point then?
gregnv says:
08:57 AM, 10/26/11
Yep, the red interior, plastic front clip and staggered wheels will make it "um...go fast". Nice to see that this performance car has the "eco" mode option, because that screams performance.
There is no question Lexus makes a quality luxury car and can infuse their line with performance. Lexus was making some headway with the "F" designation being recognized as a high performance line to compete with the BMW M, Mercedes AMG, and Cadillac V lines. However, this will dilute the "F" model designation by being more "show" than "go" compared to the standard version of the model.
At least the GM had the decency to up the horsepower (even if it was only by 5-35hp) over the non-GT models during the last run of the Grand AM GT.
sherief says:
09:34 AM, 10/26/11
I love how it looks, well, boring from three angles, and aggressive (in a bad way) from the front. Looks like the car's granny pinched it's mouth. Just not attractive.
Yet the Lexus fanboys love it. But you can bet this won't be poaching BMW/Audi/MB drivers any time soon.
"Edgiest GS ever"...that's like "the most aggressive shade of beige ever"..
louiswei says:
09:34 AM, 10/26/11
"Hmmmm. If this "F Sport Package" adds no power increases then what does the "F" stand for here? The Lexus GS350 "FAKE" Sports package."
Really? Does the BMW M-sport package on the 5er offer any power increase? Does the Audi S-Line on the A6 offer any power increase? Yeah, I thought so too...
This is not the GS F, this is the GS F-sport, if that's too confusing then think of it just the GS with sports package. Still not getting it? Okay... you know there is the regular 5er right? And you also know there is a sports package availabe for the 5er right? Ok, then the regular 5er = regular GS, 5er with sport/M-sport = GS F-sport. Get it? Still no? God bless you...
"On top of that it is in no way even comparable to what the Europeans like BMW M or Mercedes AMG do."
Because this is not the GS F, which part of that do you not understand? Do you even capable of understand the concept? Look at the current IS line, there is the IS F and there is the IS with F-sport package. This is the GS F-sport, not the GS F.
"Yep, the red interior, plastic front clip and staggered wheels will make it "um...go fast". "
Ok, I see the problem here, apparently IL refuses to give us the whole picture... Here's the whole press release if you care and you can see if the GS F-sport is just wheels, red leather and cosmetic upgrade:
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/10/25/lexus-unveils-2013-gs-350-f-sport-ahead-of-sema/
"However, this will dilute the "F" model designation by being more "show" than "go" compared to the standard version of the model."
Another one who doesn't the understand the concept of this is the F-sport, not the F... Does a 5er with M-sport make it a M5? Does an A6 with S-Line package make it a S6? Hello?!
louiswei says:
09:41 AM, 10/26/11
"Yet the Lexus fanboys love it. But you can bet this won't be poaching BMW/Audi/MB drivers any time soon."
Says the BMW/Audi/MB customer relation expert or says the BMW/Audi/MB fanboy?
Yeah, ok...
hondacura4 says:
09:54 AM, 10/26/11
People are SO DAMN IGNORANT!
- The F-Sport package is meant to add much higher dynamic capabilities to the GS that the base model nor past GS350/460's couldn't offer.
- The actual F designation will still go to Lexus' all out high performance sedans.
- Other sport/luxury cars in this segment offer similar power. The 535i, E 350, CTS DI, A6 all offer something in the 300+ range and offer sport packages.
- Although the 3.5 is a carryover it's still one of the top performers in it's class as it's super refined, reliable, efficient, powerful and has plenty of room for a power increase.
- In regards to styling, I do think the front bumper is a bit overstyled butinstill like it as it really adds aggression to the front end.
- The LF-A and IS-F are just the start of Lexus performance and the new GS is only the 2nd Lexus to be developed from the ground up (behind the LF-A) to have high performance credentials. The IS-F was conceived after the IS came to the market.
exnevadan says:
09:54 AM, 10/26/11
other than the f'd up front end it's pretty beefy looking both inside and out
can't wait to see/hear the real -F model
and louiswei - please slow down, you're passing BD1 to become the 1487 (or whatever his name was) of Lexus posts
louiswei says:
10:11 AM, 10/26/11
"and louiswei - please slow down, you're passing BD1 to become the 1487 (or whatever his name was) of Lexus posts"
I was slow, maybe you missed the first three of my posts.
Then there came the bashers bashing the car based on incorrect information. My point was... if you want to critic a car or even bash a car, that's fine, it's your opinion, but please don't preach it like gospel when you don't even UNDERSTAND about the car.
Like I said in my third post, I respect other opinions and I understand not everyone is going to appreciate the aggresive styling, what I can't stand is to bash a car just because of the brand.
"People are SO DAMN IGNORANT!"
@ hondacura4, THANK YOU!
graspthefact says:
10:47 AM, 10/26/11
What is wrong to bash a car just because of the brand?
I had terrible experiences with British cars in the past (Jags and Range rovers).
Almost spent more money to fix the damn cars then actual cost of the cars.
I am not going to buy anything from Jaguars and Range Rover. Hell I am not going to buy any cars that are manufactured in England.
With my limited experience with Lexus (only have drove RX350, ES350 and IS350), I wouldn't consider Lexus to be my next car.
Am I brand-biased? Hell Yeah I am.
bimmerjay says:
12:01 PM, 10/26/11
You would think it would be pretty damn obvious that the GS F Sport is not the GS F, and that this car is clearly intended to slot against the 5-Series Sport/M Sport, E-Class Sport and A6 S-Line. I guess not.
"What is wrong to bash a car just because of the brand?"
Because brands can and do change. Cadillacs aren't all floaty barges anymore and Hyundais aren't cheap, poorly made econoboxes anymore. Bashing a car simply based on the brand is ridiculous. Read up on it and maybe even drive it first and then your opinion will have value.
mrgold78 says:
12:23 PM, 10/26/11
@ louiswei
LOL! 7 replies already to anyone and anything that is negative to Lexus in this thread. Calm down bro. Just because you are a huge Lexus fan boy doesn't mean everyone else is. You must work for Lexus!
louiswei says:
12:32 PM, 10/26/11
@ mrgold78,
I guess bashing a car based on brand and bashing a car without understanding what the heck you are bashing about is completely accpetable but to set the record straight is being a "fanboy" and "must work for Lexus"...
Ok, you won the argument of the day.
mrgold78 says:
05:23 PM, 10/26/11
@ louiswei
Do I owe you money or something? Go ahead and bite my head off why don't ya? Relax Louis.
Everyone who reads Insideline knows you love Lexus and was the first to drive the LFA from the Lexus LFA Road Trip. You also started lexusnet.com website dedicated to Lexus enthusiasts. So by me calling you a Lexus fanboy here you do not need to get all offended. Is you being a Lexus fanboy so bad?
What if I don't like the new offerings from Lexus? I think Lexus is behind the competition on performance sedans. So? I think Lexus sucks. So what? I think the F Sports Package is a joke!
Uh-oh! Was that statement going too far? Oh No! Don't send the Ninja Assassins on me Louis!
So I made fun of Lexus on the comment above. Is that a personal attack on you? Why do you have to tell everyone off here who posts a negative comment? Are you the Internet Lexus Reputation Police or something? LOL!
So Sorry Louis this thread is not perfectly filled with positive comments only. This is Insideline where it is about all brands of automobiles and there will be different people with different opinions to you. If you can't handle criticism against Lexus go back to your Lexus forums where everyone can agree with you so you can win every arguement of every day!
louiswei says:
05:34 PM, 10/26/11
@ mrgold78,
Nobody gives a shit about you like Lexus or not, including me. But you said, and I quote:
"On top of that it is in no way even comparable to what the Europeans like BMW M or Mercedes AMG do. What's the point then?"
So you were comparing this GS350 F-sport to BMW M cars and MB AMG cars? Please correct me if that's not what you were saying.
Again, I don't give a shit about what you like, you vote with your wallet and I vote with mine. The only thing I was trying to do is set the record straight: 1. This is a GS F-sport, not a GS F. 2. The F-sport package is more than a cosmetic upgrade. Like it or not, those are the facts.
louiswei says:
05:45 PM, 10/26/11
Oh by the way mrgold78, I am sorry that I got to drive the LFA, I guess that spot should reserve to a Lexus hater because maybe that'll at least change a person's view about Lexus. Well, on the second thought, nah...
Also, I will apologize that a couple buddies of mine with me decided to provide a platform for Lexus owners to share experience and info freely on our own money. I guess that's not allowed because Lexus cars are so boring so "fanboys" aren't allowed to talk about their cars. Yeah, I was mistaken that internet is not a free world, it is controlled by the self-righteous, so called "enthusiast" tough guys...
p00pman says:
12:21 PM, 10/27/11
haha louiswei, you're so silly....
By the way I found a matching motorcycle for this car....
http://zuzutop.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/1260736641_predator-bike-01.jpg