Lexus LFA Breaks Nurburgring Lap Record

Who cares, the Porsche GT2 RS beat the LFA in straight line acceleration according to IL's comparo... Also, such a pity that a $375k super car can't even beat a $100k Nissan in acceleration, right?

I know a car that was $20k to build that would destroy either in a straight line, that really isn't the point now is it?

Wow, that's a pretty amazing time. Well done Lexus.

louiswei: that sarcasm is just dripping. ;) Way to get it in before the haters.

Kudos to Lexus. It really is a very special car. Here's to hoping that "trickle down theory" actually works in the automotive engineering world.

Yeah, if drag strip numbers are all that you care about, then you shouldn't even be comparing sports cars.

As far as verification, I think they had Chris Harris there to confirm. That says it's real. And this lap time demonstrates the difference between mere horsepower and truly great car design.

I will believe it when I see the Video>> Tell than I have every reason to doubt this time>> It's all Hype because the LFA has failed to live up to expectations and Toyota is getting desperate to bring any attention to the LFA..

awesome angle of that lfa there.

Incredible.

Sorry haters... nitpick all you want but that is one hell of a car and I fail to see how any true enthusiast could argue otherwise.

Hey anybody heard of the latest Cobalt time on the 'ring?

I love to see Lexus stick it to GM and the haters.......it makes them crazy....where is Zr1man when you need him.....the other GM fanboi has reared his pointed head.

"Toyota is getting desperate to bring any attention to the LFA.."

How desperate can you get? You are in back of the lube pit and just think of this crap? How about a link to back up that statement?

@ bb,

Keep in mind, he drives a Cobalt (Read: not even a Cruze) and yet he's here bashing the LFA, lets save ourselves some bandwidth...

Love the LFA. I don't care what anyone says, fast lap is the fast lap.

I believe it. WHY?

because I never thought ZR1 could ever be quicker than 7:26.4. Well guess what? the 2012 ZR1 is. So why shouldnt I believe LEXUS when they are claiming that time on twitter.

I love the LFA it's a beautiful car but I'm with Mike, video or it didn't happen. I'm sick of these car companies that set "records" but don't record it. No one has yet to prove that new unrecorded GTR time.

The next thing that's going to happen is that Porsche is going to state that they can't come close to reproducing that lap time in the Nurburgring LFA. Prove it or it didn't happen end of story on my part.

Congrats to Lexus/Toyota for a great achievement.....and without turbochargers. Love my Nissan, but gotta give credit where it's due.

Still love how people come on here bragging about how much money they make compared to xx person while driving their souped up econo cars.

Lexus rocks..I should know, I drive one. Been a damn good car. 98 GS400.

@fvgtr35 said: "Still love how people come on here bragging about how much money they make compared to xx person while driving their souped up econo cars."

One of the unfortunate side effects of the internet is the "online forum tough guy". It's amazing what people will say to one another and how they behave when they hide behind the anonymity of the internet.

Can't we all just celebrate this incredible moment in time for automotive enthusiasts? I don't care if a car comes from Pluto... if it looks, sounds, and performs as well as the LFA does... I'm an enthusiast and I'm gonna like it.

I mean come on, how many of us can legitimately afford one anyway? Not many. Certainly not me.

LMAO @09cobaltsstc, A guy driving a turbo cobalt bagging on a world class supercar! seems like your having buyers remorse on your cobalt!!! or is it that your realizing you will never have a car that compares to and LFA?! grow up man.
Great Job Lexus!

I've never found out what all of the different 'graffiti' is on the Nurburgring. Will someone enlighten me please?

As for the LF-A, it's a cool car. I like it best in black because of the rear. Hopefully, we'll get the vid of the record-breaking lap so we can put the debate to rest. If a '96 Civic did the 'ring in 21 minutes, would that mean it's 1/3 as good as the LF-A? I'll just go with yes.

love it - all these dopes arguing about 4-5 seconds in a 7.15-7.20 minute run. you're talking about a 1% difference, it's irrelevant (like the dopey posts). weather and driver could make the difference, it has nothing to do with the cars. just be impressed with the road cars and drivers running around them around the track.

what I'd like to know is how the hell did this passenger sit there calmly at 185-190 mph and then laugh about it when it's over?

also, this car sounds unbelievable, hope I get to see/hear one someday.

+1 cjasis

and i for one love and appreciate all cars, i dont get why you guys are ragging on his cobalt if i recall correctly its the fastest FWD car to do the ring right? sure its not in the same league as a GT-R or this Sexy LF-A but he has a right to want proof. hell i wanna see the video too.

@ BB, louiswei, cobalt09

This: http://memedepot.com/uploads/2000/2397_bpfobu.jpg

Also, I will say this: Chris Harris of EVO Magazine (UK) said that it happened. That said, I still say vid or gtfo. Why? Because I believe it when I see it. And that applies to everyone.

Also, public notice: nobody gives a rat's ass how much money you make or what you do for a living. Just sayin'.

@ runreb

The Ring is a public toll road, so anyone can go on it. Therefore it is covered in the usual graffiti of curse words, penises, and other such things.

I like this ZR1, GTR and LFA rivalry.

6/27/08 ZR1 7:26
10/1/10 GTR 7:24
6/2011 LFA N edition 7:22
6/9/2011 ZR1 at 7:19
Now LFA N edition 7:14

Note the 7:38 "regular" LFA time 9/2010 didn't really get in the mix and the Viper ACR did a 7:22 8/18/2008 and didn't get as much press.

Let's see the come back Chevy or Nissan to beat it again. Is the ring becoming an unofficial you-tube time trial manufacturer's cup??? This is fun to watch and getting to be about every few months a new "winner".

Come on Nissan or Chevy - Overboost a car. Give it better downforce. Then call it a nurburgring edition and take it again and make the others go back to work.

So you can run and tell that, Nissan GT-R...

So you can run and tell that, Nissan GT-R...

Well let's see.... The lexus lfa costs $375,000.00. My ZR1 cost 110k. If I spent say, an additional 20k, so it could beat the lfa around the ring, then I will have saved an additional Quarter Million or so. I could go round-the-world in first class luxury many times.

Look to spend $375,000 on a car is wasteful. Lexus must be completely nuts to launch such a car in the middle of a recession. Who can afford it? How many have they actually sold?

Own a ZR1, Beat the lfa at the Ring, Save a Quarter Million, Do a round-the-world trip many times (in grand luxury).

People who can afford cars like the LFA normally don't visit sites like IL because they can care less about spec racing.

Just saying...

Can't wait to see the video... assuming it exists. This video, the time isn't even close so I'm with IL. I'll believe it when I see it.

Imagine if the ZR-1 had a super fast automated manual.. how much time it could save over like 13 miles of track... over all those shifts.

How much of that can be chalked up to the carbon fiber hood prop rod?

I don't get why everyone is so hung up on the numbers of the LFA. The car's purpose wasn't to have the fastest time, or the lowest 0-60 or highest lateral g. It's a car that's about the experience of driving. Hearing that wonderful engine, not how much power it has.

the GTR IS a numbers car. That's the selling point of the GTR so its like comparing potatoes to oranges

As for how many LFAs they've sold, I'm pretty sure they've sold all of them. They're not aiming for the people who have to way price into their purchase decision.

I don't get why everyone is so hung up on the numbers of the LFA. The car's purpose wasn't to have the fastest time, or the lowest 0-60 or highest lateral g. It's a car that's about the experience of driving. Hearing that wonderful engine, not how much power it has.

the GTR IS a numbers car. That's the selling point of the GTR so its like comparing potatoes to oranges

As for how many LFAs they've sold, I'm pretty sure they've sold all of them. They're not aiming for the people who have to weigh price into their purchase decision.

@mk40 - I'll bet a DCT that can handle the ZR1's torque would be really expensive

@ ZR1man

I'm just gonna leave this here: http://www.autoblog.com/2010/06/02/report-lexus-lfa-sold-out/

Of course, that probably won't matter to a worthless, scumbag, unfunny internet troll like yourself.

cobaltss is almost as fun to mess with as 1487....all it takes is a couple of words about his car and he ejaculates all over the place! ROFL Either the guy is really 16 with his first car or has serious mental problems.....Talk about self esteem issues!! Next he will be telling us how big his manhood is.....

teampenske3: How in the heck are you today? I am bit surprised at you for your attack on Zr1man. I hope I have not been rubbing off on you! :)

"what I'd like to know is how the hell did this passenger sit there calmly at 185-190 mph and then laugh about it when it's over?"

That was my question....I would have been barfing my brains out.....I usually dont get car or seasick but after a ride like that..........no problem driving but not riding! That and I would have had half of the seat bottom stuck to my ass!

@zr1man

in the end, the car you bought is still slower, uglier, and less advanced than the lfa. And, its still a corvette, meaning your waving a flag out your window that says "im a douchebag looking for a blonde gold digger half my age!"... but hey, atleast the cast of jersey shore will still really love those awsome chrome rims you have

@teampenske3

Thanks for the info. I think that there must be some rule that at least 5% of graffiti everywhere has to be made up of penises.

@zr1man

Your car is cool, no need to be insecure about it.

Hey I was just watching Top Gear (UK) and the fastest production car is the Ferrari 599XXX, which did it in like 6minutes I believe. So the LFA didn't break anything unless the time of the Ferrari is disqualified because I believe the production model runs slicks.

@ BB

I'm fine thanks. As for ZR1man, well he's a troll. And I like some trolls. Like the ones from Trollhattan that built Saabs. And the ones on the internet that are actually funny (we've got some funny trolls on Jalopnik). But ZR1man is just a useless piece of sh!t. His trolls are unimaginative, unfunny, old, and generally a waste of bandwith. If anything, I'd bannhammer his ass rather than 1487. At least 1487 came up with (somewhat) new and hilarious material.

Also, to all: Let's not hate on the ZR1 (or GT-R or whatever you're spec racing), it's a fantastic car, and given that the likes of Paris Hilton own an LF-A, people like jkcar6's argument is invalid. Hell, by his assessment, Ferrari's are lame because they're owned by a 17 year old boy who sounds like a girl. Regardless of the owner stereotype, both the ZR1 and LF-A are great cars that any of us would love to have in our garage. Both are enthusiast machines, and fantastic ones at that. Over at Jalopnik, we share the love amongst all great cars. I don't get why y'all can't do the same.

/end"whycan'twebefriends"soapbox

Also, like I said, ZR1man is a longtime troll here. Why don't we all not reply to him and rather hit the "Report it" button? I know I probably should've done that.

Sure, the ZR1MAN get comments. I get a lot of attention, just like my ZR1 gets everywhere I go. People come up to me almost everywhere. Comments like cool car and much respect man are made almost every time I take it out. You got to be watching for it though, it goes by in a flash.

Now to all you haters who don't even drive a fast car: The ZR1 has the best price performance ratio of just about any car out there. At 110K and 638hp, what a deal deal, can't be beat. So what, if a car costing over three times as much, is only 4 seconds faster at the ring. I could put a few mods on my ZR1 and beat the lfa all day long, and still have a Quarter Million left over.

Until you want to be's are driving a real supercar, hush! And for the name calling, boo hoo, sticks and stones, sticks and stones.

Be Happy, Drive a ZR1

hey carlos...:

+1000 Good post!

@ Carlos

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/5451127/images/1250267982131.gif

+1 @ Carlos.

That's why you don't see people driving super cars here yapping about how fast their cars are, how much they make and how big their balls are; they simple just don't care about what others think, unlike some insecure people here...

bodyblue, the video is of an non record lap. It's the last sentence just above the video link.
I missed it at first, but when I realized there were 2 people in the car, something did not make sense.

i think we can take one thing from this for sure.. when you step back and look at it, no one can touch the japanese. between the great bargain of a supercar nissan gtr, and the italian like extremely overpriced lfa wich is now the king of the ring; yah just cant touch them.

It seems that Lexus finally got the balls to do something. I blame it on the GS.

And I really love the die-hard Lexus, Corvette, Porsche and GTR fans here.

Internet arguments about cars are hilarious. LOLXD

@carlos2174

Well ZR1Man who apparently owns a zr1 kinda proves you wrong because he post in EVERY supercar article about how his zr1 is better, even when the subject has nothing to do with it. So it's not really fair to say the annoying ones are just the ones that don't own supercars.

Besides I know some people take it to an extreme but there are some people who just have fun and enjoy comparing cars as a hobby, like putting a Cold air intake on a 148hp car. You don't do it to street race, you do it because you enjoy the act of installing thing on your car. Some people love discussing cars and have fun doing so and naturally biases can occur, like how you tried to remain neutral but obviously was giving of traces of GTR favoritism in your post. Nothing wrong with that.

@ brett

I seriously doubt ZR1man actually owns a ZR1. He's been trolling here as long as I can remember. As I always say, pics or gtfo. And also, what you're describing (modding cars) is totally different from the armchair racing bullshit that threads like these tend to degenerate into ("C/D said that a GTR totally smokes this POS LFA, blah blah blah...") and I think the armchair racing is what carlos2174 was referring to. At least, that's how I saw it.

Everyone is talking about the cost of the LFA but its not like the car was intended to be a cash cow. Toyota's been selling reliable cars that meet the needs of the "a-to-b" driver for a long time now, so they upped the game with a real supercar. Why not?

Congrats to the company for not only making a fast car, but one that has one of the most entertaining exhaust notes ever.

@brettjr25

I'm with 'teampenske3' I really doubt that this ZR1man owns one because of his non mature behavior, but that's just my opinion, who knows maybe he does and he's still annoying, I didn't meat to be that specific, sorry if anyone misunderstood my point. But as everyone says, "Pics or GTFO". I could post pics of my cars if anyone ask, but think it, it's not like my username is "GT-Rman" haha.

And yes I know that, and that was the "sharing experience" thing I was referring too, it's very different to compare cars by hobby than to yell "my car is better" I know people too that (including myself) that has argued this kind of topic but in a friendly way, joking, and IRL with people I actually know. I would never say to a stranger things like "HAHA I GOT THE '11 GT-R AND YOU THE '09" and I've never seen anyone to do so. And yes haha I tried to remain neutral, I actually like the LF-A a lot, it's a very nice car but I LOVE my GT-R, living with it only gets me to loving it more, but I tried to remain on the facts that I see, still i'd love to have an LF-A too, who wouldn't? And for Corvettes.. well... Im more a Euro-Japanese car enthusiast. I would feel like i'm buying a big engine & plastic, I don't hate it, I know it's good, fast and shit.. but not my kind.

Witnesses report that the as yet released 2013 Shelby Mustang lapped The Ring in 7:30s and for a paltry $60,000 it's not worth it to me to spend a lot more to go a little faster. Also the Shelby Mustang wins the True Cost to Own competition performed by Edmunds, and makes a better daily driver, as far as I'm concerned.

09cobalt... - Are you really attempting to convince people that a Cobalt is fast? .. Give it up. And please don't brag about your HIGH paying career, hence the previous sentence saying you own a Cobalt. Doesn't quite fit... Proof read before you click post next time.

Carlos and ZR1tard.

A. Carlos - I can assure you that 99.99% of individuals purchasing GTR's in the states are probably semi-successful people, and for the most part "have their shit together".. You on the other hand can not form a proper sentence, and your grammer skills suggest you are half, if not full blown retard. You are undoubtedly another internet big talking cyber dreamer, who somehow finds satifaction from creating a fictional image of yourself in attempts to impress others.. Its incredibly pathetic, but whatever floats your boat.

B. ZR1tard.. Not much to say about you, just that your simply a dumb fuck similar to the guy above... But with a different taste in cyber make believe cars. Good luck with that.

Other than that, awesome job Lexus!!! The LFA is badass!!! I can't wait to see which car manufacturer first breaks the 6min barrier... Crazy shit!!

There really is no 'direct' competitor to the LFA. Neither GTR or ZR1 mentioned in earlier posts has the technical sophistication of a carbon fibre tub, and their engines stop short of being exotic in design - the GTR's V6 Turbo is a common arrangement and the pushrod design in the ZR1 could apply for a pension.

By all accounts the LFA boasts the full accompliment of noises, jolts and general brutality that the traditional 'supercar' is inherently known for. A tough temperament to match its performance and a stark contrast to the refinement oozing from anything else with a Lexus badge.

I do find it surprising that Lexus, a company not renowned for building sports cars, could build such an accomplished car - even more so if the lap time is true.

Of course, the LFA is incredibly pricey for what it is, but then that's not really the point, as the rare owners of such a vehicle will already have a Ferrari and/or Lambo in the garage. Instead, consider the LFA as an overpriced marvel for the well heeled. Albeit, a very fast, furious, engaging and grin inducing marvel.

There really is no 'direct' competitor to the LFA. Neither GTR or ZR1 mentioned in earlier posts has the technical sophistication of a carbon fibre tub, and their engines stop short of being exotic in design - the GTR's V6 Turbo is a common arrangement and the pushrod design in the ZR1 could apply for a pension.

By all accounts the LFA boasts the full accompliment of noises, jolts and general brutality that the traditional 'supercar' is inherently known for. A tough temperament to match its performance and a stark contrast to the refinement oozing from anything else with a Lexus badge.

I do find it surprising that Lexus, a company not renowned for building sports cars, could build such an accomplished car - even more so if the lap time is true.

Of course, the LFA is incredibly pricey for what it is, but then that's not really the point, as the rare owners of such a vehicle will already have a Ferrari and/or Lambo in the garage. Instead, consider the LFA as an overpriced marvel for the well heeled. Albeit, a very fast, furious, engaging and grin inducing marvel.

They should juice up a Chevy Volt with all the batteries it can handle, just enough juice to carry about 800 hp through 1 lap at the ring. A rock hard suspension, and 1.5 foot wide tires and huge brakes to handle the weight. It'll turn a 7 minute time and they can call it the "Nurburgring Edition" and add another $50k to the price. It would be the scariest golf cart ever made.

Toyota has lied and tried to cover up so much in the past.

Why should we believe them on this one?

"We're going to go with "vid or it didn't happen" until we get to see it. "

Agreed, and thank you, InsideLine.

Lexus came up with this on Twitter? Lexus tweets?? Really? Puhhleeez...

I like the way GM does things on the 'ring. They come right out with a documented lap time, and then simultaneously release a video proving it. No B.S. No hiding. Porsche, Lexus, and Nissan should all take note.

@ yeahyeah1 says:

"There really is no 'direct' competitor to the LFA."

Of course there is. Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera, Ferrari 458 Scuderia (I know, it's not out yet, but soon, but even the regular 458 will give it a run for its money), come to mind.

"Neither GTR or ZR1 mentioned in earlier posts has the technical sophistication of a carbon fibre tub,"

The GTR and the ZR1 will always raise the question: why does the LFA cost so much, yet not perform that much better, if at all?

What good is technical sophistication such a carbon fiber chassis if it serves no purpose or offers any real advantage? The Lexus LFA weighs 3,263 lbs. It should be much, much lighter for such "technical sophistication" and cost. For reference, a ZR1 is only 70 lbs. heavier.

" and their engines stop short of being exotic in design"

There's nothing exotic with the LFA's engine either, other than it has a high redline. The LFA engine breaks no new ground, and offers no new technology that hasn't already been done before. It doesn't even have direct injection!

" the GTR's V6 Turbo is a common arrangement"

Who cares if the arrangement is common? That's like dismissing Ferrari's V-8's as common because most pickup trucks use V-8's too.

"and the pushrod design in the ZR1 could apply for a pension. "

You demonstrate your ignorance clearly there. The DOHC design in the LFA should also apply for a pension then too, as it was invented in 1912, only a few years after the OHV pushrod.

BTW, the most powerful internal combustion engines in the world happen to be pushrods. FACT.

So let me get this straight. You have to add $70k in upgrades to a $375K car in order to beat a $100k ZR1 and a $90k GTR? Beautiful.

Stinray the reason that the an LFA costs 500K is because they can get that much for them.....they are taking 10K discounts off of ZR1s at any Chevy dealer in the country. Impressive as it is the ZR1 is a joke to people looking at exotic cars. Sorry you are so bitter about it but its just the way it is. People that brag about their cars or how much they make are boobs anyway as you and cobalt have shown us over the years. Talking about you car is a cool thing.....bragging about it is really stupid.

towards to end when the lfa on the straight doing 270km, it looks like both occupants are having a conversation: "look ma, 270 km with one hand".

If Lexus ever lied before, I'd agree, IL

But since they haven't.......we have a new LORD OF THE RING!!
BD

If Lexus ever lied before, I'd agree, IL

But since they haven't.......we have a new LORD OF THE RING!!
BD

who?.. what?.. when?.. ?????
evidence people!.. idont see an official time anywhere. twitter?? wow! why would lexus anounce
this via twitter.. lame! this car is just a waste.. i want this car to run against the mighty,bang for tha buck real- japanese super car nissan GT-R.. has anyone noticed.. lexus wont let no one compete thier lilttle girl LFA wit
the wolrds best ferrari,GT-R,PORSCHE,lambo. is it just me?? or im the only one that notices it??? rumor has it that lexus loans this car to magazines for hours.. not dayzz. are they tryin to hide somethin? are they affraid?.. they just want to find RICERS' out their and make them belive that this car is tha KING' of all supercars at the moment when its not proven! so i need evidence, & facts so i can belive it..

The downforce + sticky tires doesn't make that car go faster. It's all in the orange paint---adds over 9000 mental HP. I say the lap doesn't count. The full cage, seats and harnesses aren't going to be included with that package. Try to set the lap record with the fear of death from lack of safety on every corner.

BTW, here is the video of the LFA's EPIC 7:14.64 at Nurburgring August 30th.
Congratulations, Lexus! It looks like Planet Earth has some catching up to do......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4wVb5QkZiQ&feature=player_embedded
BD

"rumor has it that lexus loans this car to magazines for hours.. not dayzz. are they tryin to hide somethin?"

Another troll who are just pulling shit from his ass...

Lexus loaned a LFA to Inside Line for ONE WEEK, yes you read it right, ONE F'ING WEEK and IL took a road trip with it. They also let two readers drive it when they have the car, yes I know because I was one of them...

Dumbass.

The morons on here doubting the truth of the LFA run wont have the class to give credit where credit is do........they hate and fear Toyota because the are already coming back from a hard time.....and they hate it.

I see Toyota/Lexus like a Klingon Warship
The last 2 years, they've been like a mirage, a hazy shadow of themselves, unable to attack while under this cloud

Now........Klingon Warship UNCLOAKING! We're under attack!
BD

@trav187

A) First of all, English it's not my native language that's why I have some problems. I've been living in the US for almost a year, but hey, at least I speak 4 languages fag. And btw, I think it's "grammar" not "grammer".

B) You're exactly the kind of jealous-annoyed guy that replied me because you can't deal with the fact that i'm right and people actually agreed. DEAL WITH IT, there are supposedly mature people in here.

C) Wanna check out my GT-R?
http://cl.ly/0Y40041E13242S0J3T2y

3 words: IN YOUR FACE.
Now sir, what kind of "succesfull-only" car do you drive?

Carlos, Carlos, I think you lost your cool in that last post. Don't take it all so seriously. It's just the Internet.

I think ZR1 guys are a lot cooler than gtr guys. Just look at Carlos.

confirmed

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/09/lfa%E2%80%99s-ring-result-confirmed-714-64/