There has never been much reason to trouble yourself over a V6 Mustang, because, well, they're a pretty slow, unrefined lot. But the transplant of Ford's 3.7-liter V6 into the 2011 Ford Mustang should make quite a difference and not just because of the new dual exhaust.
The V6 Mustang you'll see at next week's 2009 LA Auto Show has an all-aluminum, 3731cc (227-cid) engine with a 10.5:1 compression ratio, 4 valves per cylinder, and variable valve timing on both the intake and exhaust side. That's good for 305 horsepower at 6,500 rpm (an increase of 95 hp) and 280 pound-feet at 4,250 rpm (an increase of 40 lb-ft). And you can have the new engine with a manual or automatic -- six forward gears each.
Finally. Enough torque for a decent burnout. The 2011 Mustang V6 goes on sale in the spring. Oh, it's the 5.0-liter "Coyote" V8 that interests you? Ford's keeping that one under its corporate hat for another couple weeks.
7driver says:
12:34 AM, 11/30/09
Question the Ford experts: Is this the first time the Duratec V6 has been in a longitudinal layout? All the installations for the 3.0/3.5/3.7 I can think of are all transverse.
1487 says:
05:36 AM, 11/30/09
Very impressive engine. Life just got harder for the Genesis Coupe. This car will be fast because it only weighs about 3500lbs- I can see 0-60 coming in under 5.5 secs.
roadburner says:
07:12 AM, 11/30/09
It sounds like it might equal the acceleration times of my MS3- but that's not all that fast...
carguy622 says:
07:44 AM, 11/30/09
@7driver: No, the 3.0L was longitudinal in the Lincoln LS and Jaguar S-Type.
1487 says:
07:46 AM, 11/30/09
for a car weighing 3500lbs that is very fast. The MS3 is MUCH lighter and at a stop light you are unlikely to beat any 305hp Mustangs in a race. To get the times you see in magazines compact cars (especially with turbos) are revved like crazy and launched in ways most owners wouldn't dream of. Check out the 5-60 times for the MS3 to see how fast it would be in the real world.
estreka says:
08:26 AM, 11/30/09
It's crazy to think that Ford's V8 produced a mere 260hp 5 years ago. Ford really has come a long way.
roadburner says:
08:29 AM, 11/30/09
I usually don't "magazine race", but I'll note that the MS3 CD tested in May 2007 weighed 3185 lbs. and did 0-60 in 5.4 seconds and 5-60 in 6.0 seconds. Contrast that with the June 2009 test of the 3492 lb. V6 Genesis Coupe, which did the 0-60 run in 5.5 seconds and 5-60 in 6.1. In my opinion
neither car is all that fast.
1487 says:
09:05 AM, 11/30/09
they are fast for the money. Not fast compared to a car like the M3 which costs many thousands more.
compliance says:
09:19 AM, 11/30/09
Hairdressers rejoice!
jederino says:
09:30 AM, 11/30/09
Okay, peeps, sub-6 seconds is pretty darn quick. Let's be real, here. That's quicker than nearly every muscle back in the day, and it's waaay quicker than Magnum's Ferrari, which I know most of us wanted at some point and would probably be happy with today.
Moving on, is it just me, or is the new Mustang's engine bay kind of attractive? Where's the plastic cover? It looks like I can recognize actual pieces on the thing!
cr_driver says:
09:53 AM, 11/30/09
About time, nothing remarkable. Just catching up the competition.
And oh boy, does ford really knows how to build VERY UGLY engines! LOL
Look at those pictures....ASCO!
sabastian says:
10:12 AM, 11/30/09
I'm pretty excited to see how this car stacks up against the Genesis Coupe 3.8 and the V6 Camaro. It's great to see auto makers taking the "lesser" models seriously.
roadburner says:
11:11 AM, 11/30/09
"Okay, peeps, sub-6 seconds is pretty darn quick. Let's be real, here. That's quicker than nearly every muscle back in the day, and it's waaay quicker than Magnum's Ferrari, which I know most of us wanted at some point and would probably be happy with today."
Back in the early '90s my E24 M6 was considered to be very fast(0-60 in 6.0 seconds, the 1/4 mile in 14.5), but now it would be considered an average performer. And yes, the V6 Camaro, Genesis Coupe, and Mustang are fast cars for the money. I'll also note that there are a number of far less powerful cars that are an absolute ball to drive- the 1st gen. Miata, 944, E30/E36 318i, and the MR2 are just a few examples. That said, I want my next daily driver/track toy to have a sub-5 second 0-60 capability at a minimum.
ag4 says:
12:30 PM, 11/30/09
"This car will be fast because it only weighs about 3500lbs- I can see 0-60 coming in under 5.5 secs." -1487
@1487,
It probably weight less than 3400lb.
Isn't the new aluminum block 3.7 liter V6 lighter than the old cast-iron block 4.0 liter V6?
sabastian says:
02:55 PM, 11/30/09
"Life just got harder for the Genesis Coupe."
...and the Camaro.
brn says:
03:18 PM, 11/30/09
This is a perfect car for my mid-life crisis.
hondacura4 says:
06:49 PM, 11/30/09
Fast to me = anything that traps higher than 99mph.
"Very impressive engine."
1487, nothing really all that impressive about it as there are plenty of large V6s making over 300hp. GM, Honda, Toyota just to name a few. Not saying it's NOT a good engine but it's nothing new.
I'm actually glad that Ford responded so quickly to the Camaro V6. Now if the FIVEpoint0 returns with at least 400hp/375tq and an IRS finds its way under the rear I'll be REALLY impressed.
ag4 says:
06:59 PM, 11/30/09
"I'm actually glad that Ford responded so quickly to the Camaro V6."
@hondacura4,
I believe Ford was already developing the high-output 3.7 liter V6 even before the Camaro and Genesis Coupe were launched.
brn says:
07:35 PM, 11/30/09
"Fast to me = anything that traps higher than 99mph."
With a base motor on an entry level sports car?
"nothing really all that impressive about it as there are plenty of large V6s making over 300hp. GM, Honda, Toyota just to name a few."
Which of them get 30mpg?
It's impressive for what it is. It's not game changing, but impressive. It's also a game of leapfrog. Ford is simply the most recent to leap.
roadburner says:
09:15 PM, 11/30/09
"Fast to me = anything that traps higher than 99mph."
I'm holding out for 105+
:)
inlinesix says:
09:42 PM, 11/30/09
Good call Ford.
1487 says:
05:26 AM, 12/ 1/09
"1487, nothing really all that impressive about it as there are plenty of large V6s making over 300hp. GM, Honda, Toyota just to name a few. Not saying it's NOT a good engine but it's nothing new."
How many such engines are available in cars costing about $25k? Not many. Its very impressive considering the price of the car. To get a comparable engine in a Toyota you have to get an IS350 which is over $35k. To get such an engine in a Honda you have to get a $40k TL-SH-AWD. It is true that the Camaro and Genesis offer a similar engine for similar money but thats about where it ends. As BRN stated, no other car offers this much power and 30mpg on the highway. The 335i gets 26mpg on the highway on premium fuel.
roadburner says:
08:28 AM, 12/ 1/09
Note that the N54 engine installed in the E9X is an inline six- just as God and Alexander von Falkenhausen intended.
:)
bimmerjay says:
10:39 AM, 12/ 1/09
"The 335i gets 26mpg on the highway on premium fuel. "
However, in the real world the 335i can hit 28-29 mpg on the highway. Especially with the new Efficient Dynamics technologies now fitted.
brn says:
11:20 AM, 12/ 1/09
"However, in the real world the 335i can hit 28-29 mpg on the highway."
In the real world any car can exceed it's rated mpg. The key is that the EPA ratings are the best means for comparing the relative mpg of one vehicle vs another. Real world claims are not.
The exception being alternatively powered vehicles (ex EVs). There is no good comparisons there.
hondacura4 says:
05:03 PM, 12/ 1/09
"How many such engines are available in cars costing about $25k?"
1487, I commented on what you actually stated which was "very impressive engine". You mentioned nothing about price in that post.
roadburner says:
05:21 PM, 12/ 1/09
I don't understand all the hand-wringing over cars needing premium fuel. If you drive 15,000 miles per year and your car averages 25 mpg you will use 600 gallons of gasoline. If the price differential between regular and premium is 25 cents then the added cost amounts to $150 annually. That's a whole $12.50 per month- or 41 cents per day. Big deal. If an additional expense of less than 50 cents per day is going to bust your budget I'd suggest that you had best confine your vehicle choices to used Aveos and Rios.
greenpony says:
08:49 PM, 12/ 1/09
Without resorting to direct injection, too.
frank908 says:
05:38 AM, 12/ 2/09
Ugly engine.
brn says:
07:05 AM, 12/ 2/09
roadburner, it's for comparison sake. Around here, premium fuel costs about 10% more. If we're talking mpg and my regular fuel car gets 30mpg, your premium fuel car better get 33mpg. If your premium fuel car gets 30mpg, the regular fuel car is the clear winner. If your premium fuel car gets 33mpg, then great! It just needs to be made clear what kind if fuel is used, because we are comparing mpg.
roadburner says:
12:01 PM, 12/ 2/09
"It just needs to be made clear what kind if fuel is used, because we are comparing mpg."
I see your point, but it still comes down to pennies per day. There's no way I'd pick one car over another because it used a fuel that's only 10% less expensive.
roadburner says:
12:22 PM, 12/ 2/09
"It just needs to be made clear what kind if fuel is used, because we are comparing mpg."
I see your point, but it still comes down to pennies per day. There's no way I'd pick one car over another because it used a fuel that's only 10% less expensive.
hondacura4 says:
04:11 PM, 12/ 2/09
"Without resorting to direct injection, too."
Good point Green. I personally think DI is overrated.
mrryte says:
06:55 AM, 01/ 6/10
hondacura4 says:
"Without resorting to direct injection, too."
Good point Green. I personally think DI is overrated.
DI is overrated? How so?