Nothing like a hometown crew to get the best access. Looks like MotorMagazine in Japan has already been up close and personal with several of the cars debuting at the 2009 Tokyo Auto Show in a couple of weeks. The Toyota FT-86, Honda CR-Z, Mitsubishi PX-MiEV, Nissan Leaf and Mazda Kiyora are all laid out for your inspection. Enjoy all of their hard work.
greenpony says:
05:02 AM, 10/10/09
If only I knew Japanese. I only understood "Tokyo Motorshow" and "concepto".
hondacura4 says:
06:56 AM, 10/10/09
Ill have to get the wife to translate as she's half Japanese/Black.
I absolutely love the overall concept!
Although I have no problem with Toyota and Subaru sharing the overall platform, I wish the Toyota version would have used it own drivetrain. Doing so would have made both the Toyota and Subaru versions more diverse as the drivetrain characteristics would have helped further define each car.
I don't think a lot of people understand how much of a drivetrains characteristics can influence the overall experience with the vehicle. Of course different interior/exterior styling and suspension/chassis tuning are a large part of that experience but with any perar the drivetrain is even more of an important factor.
hondacura4 says:
07:00 AM, 10/10/09
That last sentence should have stated;
" Of course different interior/exterior styling and suspension/chassis tuning are a large part of that experience but with any performance car, the drivetrain is even more of an important factor."
sabastian says:
08:43 AM, 10/10/09
I'm still a little nervous about the power. The NA 2.0 Boxer only puts out around 150bhp in other applications, and I don't see the red-line getting a bump to 8,000ish rpm to provide the extra oomph. Ideally, the subie version would have the WRX engine, and the Toyota would have a high-revving NA 4-cyl similar to Honda's K-series. That would provide two very different driving experiences and more variety for the buyers.
carlisimo says:
01:39 PM, 10/10/09
Effu-chi hachi-roku!
Also interesting that the narrator says the Z in CR-Z like "zed" rather than "zee." Shi-aru-zeddo.
ag4 says:
04:33 AM, 10/12/09
"I'm still a little nervous about the power. The NA 2.0 Boxer only puts out around 150bhp in other applications, and I don't see the red-line getting a bump to 8,000ish rpm to provide the extra oomph." -sabastian
@sabastian, the naturally aspirated 2.0 liter boxer of the previous generation Subaru Legacy made more power.
The previous generation JDM Legacy 2.0R
Engine: 2.0 DOHC, 16-valves AVCS (Active Valve Control System)
Power: 190PS (187hp) @ 7100 rpm
Torque: 196Nm @ 4400 rpm
The previous generation Legacy 2.0R (export market)
2.0 DOHC, 16-valves
Power: 165PS (163hp) @ 6800 rpm
Torque: 187Nm @ 3200 rpm
The new 2.0 liter boxer engines only make 140PS (SOHC) to 150PS (DOHC), these were probably tuned to offer better fuel economy and lower emissions.
Based on the latest reports, the 2.0 liter boxer of the FT-86 will have direct injection (D-4S).
I'm hoping that it would at least make over 170hp.
sabastian says:
08:49 AM, 10/12/09
ag4 - I forget where I saw it, but in the application I found, the 2.0 made around 150hp. It's nice to see that it's capable of more. Hopefully it'll be closer to the power outputs that you posted.
ag4 says:
09:11 AM, 10/12/09
@sabastian,
The current "new" generation 2.0 liter Subarus use a 150PS DOHC boxer except for the JDM Impreza 2.0 which uses an even weaker SOHC 140PS engine.
The previous gen Impreza 2.0 liter made 158PS.