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Yes, Confirmed: Cadillac CTS-V Wagon

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We like the idea of the Cadillac CTS Wagon (above), and we've driven it -- it's good. But we like the idea of a CTS-V Wagon even more.

And today a source inside General Motors has confirmed that it's going to happen: The CTS-V Wagon is going to exist alongside the CTS-V sedan and CTS-V coupe.

First Drive: 2010 Cadillac CTS Wagon

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35 Comments

firelicked says:

08:16 AM, 09/18/09

I thought the wagon was a go for awhile... Or did you mean that there is going to be a CTS-V wagon?

eriches says:

08:28 AM, 09/18/09

@firelicked: Yes, I did. Obviously, I got hasty hitting the "publish" button. Sorry for any confusion. -E. Riches

dougtheeng says:

08:30 AM, 09/18/09

CTS-V wagon. Thats one ticket for the failboat, please.


rsholland says:

08:35 AM, 09/18/09

The "stylish" rear-quarter window is next to useless, as it creates a blind spot. Also, the severe forward rake to the rear edge of the window on the rear doors hinder entering and exiting more than I would like. I noticed that on the CTS sedan at the car shows, which shares that same rear door. I kept hitting my head on the C-pillar getting in and out of the car.

Other than those items, it's a great car.

hondacura4 says:

08:50 AM, 09/18/09

A 6MT CTS-V wagon is MIGHTY tempting.

1487 says:

09:09 AM, 09/18/09

few people will buy such a car so I dont know why auto writers spend so much type hoping it shows up. How many E55 wagons were sold here? Not enough to count.

syt_shadow says:

09:36 AM, 09/18/09

That is wicked cool! There is something inherently wicked about a wagon that's this fast!

yamahr1 says:

09:47 AM, 09/18/09

I want one. Now affording one is a different story!

felonious says:

10:04 AM, 09/18/09

Woohoo!! :) While I'm not a big fan of the wagon's looks, any hi-po wagon is good in my book.

rallyandbosox says:

10:14 AM, 09/18/09

I wonder what it's performance will be compared to the sedan. Mercedes has been successful in making the wagon just as fast if not faster (if I remember correctly the 2005 E55 wagon was quicker than the sedan to 60). Priced right this'll be a great car, unfortunately the market is not there.

deagle13 says:

10:31 AM, 09/18/09

AWESOME!!!

lmbvette says:

10:50 AM, 09/18/09

This is officially on my shopping list. Any idea on production date?

@dougtheeng - Why would it fail? Obviously few people can afford a 70k car, and I'd have to guess Cadillac knows this, however, the development costs for this will be extremely low since A) They already build the wagon B) They already build the CTS-V.

If anything, this will help make GM more profit as previous development costs will be spread out across the board due to greater production numbers of those same components.

hondacura4 says:

11:13 AM, 09/18/09

"Few people will buy such a car so I dont know why auto writers spend so much type hoping it shows up. How many E55 wagons were sold here? Not enough to count."

Welcome to the elite luxury segment 1487. With cars like this its not about large volumes as exclusivity is more important to an extent. I say a CTS-V version of the wagon is justifiable as (1. its main competition (M5/C63/RS6) offer estates, and (2. there is little R&D costs associated with the wagon as the CTS-V sedan already exists.

stovt001 says:

11:17 AM, 09/18/09

Yeah yeah yeah, low sales numbers no market we all get that, but profitability aside you can't deny this is a very cool product.

mind_ride says:

11:38 AM, 09/18/09

Even if the V-wagon doesn't sell well or make a profit, it can be instrumental in improving the reputation of "estates" in the US market. A car like this can make wagons "cool" and help mass sales of the standard CTS wagon- and other wagons GM has down the pike.

larryzek says:

11:39 AM, 09/18/09

hondacura4:

I love this car and all the other wagons you listen. Just don't forget those 3 cars are only offered in Europe and not in the US.

dc325ix says:

02:08 PM, 09/18/09

if it comes with AWD i'm buying it and good bye audi

slickersdrip says:

02:36 PM, 09/18/09

What I wouldn't do for this car. If I could afford it, it'd be pre-ordered right now. Instead I'm going to try to convince my dad to get one.

cz75 says:

02:46 PM, 09/18/09

I'm thinking this is meant to establish a better European presence, since that is where the hot wagon/estate/kombi/shooting brake market exists.

dgalliher says:

04:53 PM, 09/18/09

I'd buy one in a heartbeat if it's available with a 6MT!

chopperx says:

06:37 PM, 09/18/09

slickersdrip says:

08:43 PM, 09/18/09

After looking over several of the pictures of the CTS (in any trim) the fender vent has started to really bother me. I'd buy a CTS-V wagon no matter what... but too many people I've seen have ghetto-ized the fender vent... especially for a vehicle that isn't a Buick trying to rock it. It's pointless and please make it go away. Or at least make it a delete option like the spoiler on the Mustang.

eclogite says:

08:51 AM, 09/19/09

How is this different from the SRX? Why is a company that is barely surviving on government handouts (read: tax dollars collected from us) producing cars like this that will probably not sell at all? I almost never see SRXs on the road; I don't see that a CTS-based wagon is going to sell any better. Hey GM! I'd like my tax dollars back please.

estreka says:

10:17 AM, 09/19/09

Fantastic product. If I had a family, I'd definitely consider a used one. I almost bought a 2 year old 1st gen CTS-V for $25K a few years back. If this depreciates as quickly, I'd be awfully tempted.

bruceleroy81 says:

10:20 AM, 09/19/09

This is just like the Dodge Magnum SRT-8 only better. A more powerful V-8 with a sexier wagon look. If I were to get a Wagon car, and had the money, I'd take it.

surfwagon56 says:

02:34 PM, 09/19/09

I like it a lot. My lease is up in just over two years on my current car, I'd definitely consider replacing it with a 2 year old CTS wagon. Even the non -V version. Would look great next to the Nomad in the garage, with a bamboo surfboard rack on top just like the Chevy's. Well, maybe not the bamboo rack...

RonnieRogue says:

03:10 PM, 09/19/09

This car is stupid, pointless and ugly in my opinion. The CTS-V is a beautiful car from my perspective but to turn it into a wagon?.... What the hell are they thinking?! No one is going to buy a gas guzzling wagon unless its wearing an audi badge because those are the people who can afford to get 10 mpg from a "family" car. I see this car as another flop such as the SRX.

I cant understand the justification for ugly cars like this one and the XLR. The XLR is a "luxury" Corvette, but wasnt the Corvette a 911 fighter all through the 70's? What kind of hell as general motors gone too and how do we get it back? I'd rather have an AWD Insignia to be honest.

sevenfeet0 says:

03:22 PM, 09/19/09

I guess the interesting thing about this story is that General Motors is still willing to take some risks now that they are on the other side of bankruptcy. One thing we knew going in was that Bob Lutz was going to have a one-off made for him alone if nothing else. Odds are that the engineering team learned a lot about that little one-off project. Virtually all of the CTS-V's systems are bolt-in replacements for this car.

The real issues concern a small change of weight (easily handled by the magneto-shocks) and any changes to the flexibility of the overall car by the cabin design. Somehow I'm thinking that the huge D-pillar might be paying some dividends on that department. Since the CTS Wagon was probably on the design boards awhile ago along side the CTS-V, I'm sure the engineers made sure that the two could be put together easily if the bean counters lost their minds and approved such a car.

Again, GM is taking risks but it's probably a small one. They also likely see opportunity to wade into Mercedes AMG and BMW M customer territory since the new E63 AMG isn't slated to be imported (at least not yet, the last car was though) and the BMW M Touring has never seen these shores. Ditto for the Audi RS6 Avant. The car will be literally by itself in the market. Even if they only sell 100 cars and break even on the project, it could add more halo to the Cadillac brand than keeping around stuff like the XLR.

sevenfeet0 says:

03:23 PM, 09/19/09

I guess the interesting thing about this story is that General Motors is still willing to take some risks now that they are on the other side of bankruptcy. One thing we knew going in was that Bob Lutz was going to have a one-off made for him alone if nothing else. Odds are that the engineering team learned a lot about that little one-off project. Virtually all of the CTS-V's systems are bolt-in replacements for this car.

The real issues concern a small change of weight (easily handled by the magneto-shocks) and any changes to the flexibility of the overall car by the cabin design. Somehow I'm thinking that the huge D-pillar might be paying some dividends on that department. Since the CTS Wagon was probably on the design boards awhile ago along side the CTS-V, I'm sure the engineers made sure that the two could be put together easily if the bean counters lost their minds and approved such a car.

Again, GM is taking risks but it's probably a small one. They also likely see opportunity to wade into Mercedes AMG and BMW M customer territory since the new E63 AMG isn't slated to be imported (at least not yet, the last car was though) and the BMW M Touring has never seen these shores. Ditto for the Audi RS6 Avant. The car will be literally by itself in the market. Even if they only sell 100 cars and break even on the project, it could add more halo to the Cadillac brand than keeping around stuff like the XLR.

hondacura4 says:

05:10 PM, 09/19/09

"I love this car and all the other wagons you listen. Just don't forget those 3 cars are only offered in Europe and not in the US."


Larryzek, aren't Cadillac products offered in Europe?

buickboy92 says:

06:06 PM, 09/19/09

Wow!! I can't believe it! I really want one. I'll even take the normal wagon. All hail wagons!

larryzek says:

08:22 PM, 09/19/09

hondaacura4:

How well do they sell?

larryzek says:

08:23 PM, 09/19/09

And did I really write listen instead of listed... I'm all red...

rvictor says:

11:52 PM, 09/20/09

LOVE IT! I have been waiting for Cadilac to do this. I was considering a E class wagon, but now I will wait. I only hope my wifes Honda won't eat any more transmissions by then. She has already had two of them relplaced. Although it does have almost twenty thousand miles on it. I'm sure its a record for Honda for it to last THAT long.

pegasuszz says:

04:01 AM, 01/11/10

Get one fast if you want it. The ninny crowd is going to kill these off, the the next gen will be have shrunken engines and no room up front for more. CTS-V can take the Corvette LS9 short-block and your choice supercharger pack up top (the Corvette's was squashed a bit to fit under the hood). 650-700 real SAE hp is *not* improssible.

The wagon looks better than the sedan; no suprise. To my mind a smaller car often works out better as a wagon; modern, downsized cars don't have enough length to tailor as sedans, unlike the '60s. You could use this car for a ski trip instead of a blundering SUV that won't work as well with a sedan (bring thin cable chains, winter tires and a hand winch, you'll get there!).

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