Hyundai won't be hiding itself in some far-off corner of the Las Vegas Convention Center at early November's SEMA Show. We've already shown you the nitrous-fed Genesis Coupe Hennessey is working on down in Texas. But the centerpiece of their display is going to be this mid-engine, V8-powered version of the Genesis coupe now going together in the Huntington Beach, California, shop of Rhys Millen Racing (RMR).
Think of it as the supercar Hyundai could build if it were in the supercar business.
Starting with a stock Genesis Coupe, the crew at RMR have gutted the back of the car, chopped up the floor pan, and are currently fitting a 4.6-liter V8 swiped out of a Genesis luxury sedan about where the stock coupe's rear seat would be.
Follow the jump for more details and photos.
The engine itself will be more-or-less stock except for the fitment of eight individual throttle bodies and a set of JE pistons that should bump the compression ratio from the stock 10.4:1 to about 10.9:1 or 11.0:1. The cams, heads, crank and other internals are untouched. Stock the engine is rated at 375-horsepower so we're guessing at least 450 horses in this slightly tweaked form.
Backing up the V8 will be a Mendeola S5 sequential gearbox with five forward gears. It's the same transaxle used in the Ultima GT-R and relatively civilized for street use. It's geared for a 182 mph top speed in this application.
As much as possible, RMR is retaining the stock Genesis Coupe suspension. That means MacPherson struts up front and a five-link independent system in the rear (the transaxle sneaks in between the stock suspension back there). Braking is still open to modification, but the crew is looking at StopTech products to bring things to a halt. And while the wheel choice hasn't yet been made, the tires will be Toyo T1Rs with 245/35R20s at the bow and 285/30R20s astern.
Some tweaks to the body will be necessary to accommodate the powertrains. But the tastiest may be the conversion of the car to a rear hatch so that it can be opened for engine access. Or the engine can just be admired through the rear glass, ala the Ferrari F430. The interior is sure to be slightly rubbed, but how is still open to speculation. And you can keep your speculation to yourself.
Now that we know it's coming, and that it's going on display at SEMA in early November, we'll keep you posted on its progress over the next two months. And then we'll test it at our test track, right, Rhys? -- John Pearley Huffman, Correspondent
hondacura4 says:
06:34 AM, 09/12/09
I love project cars but this is extreme! Kudos to the Millen team for tackling such a project.
Oddest extreme projects I've seen in person:
- RWD turbo Prelude powered Integra Type R
- RWD Prelude
- 2JZGTE powered S2000 (Supra Turbo drivetrain)
- LS7 powered Mazda RX7
- SR20DET Miata (Nissan Silvia drivetrain)
There have been rumors of a GT35R powered 370Z going around the import crowd here. To some extent I do believe it as the owner of the shop has some pretty impressive cars of his own which include a GTR, 370Z, E46 M3, 1100WHP Lexus SC300 (full interior), a modified Dodge Ram 2500 diesel and a 500+AWHP horsepower Mitsu Evolution.
estreka says:
09:27 AM, 09/12/09
Don't forget the C32-powered (NSX) CR-X.
gilroy74 says:
10:14 AM, 09/12/09
Hopefully Millen with drive it up Pike's Peak next year.
stephen987 says:
10:25 AM, 09/12/09
@hondacura4: I think the Mk1 Golf-bodied Porsche 928 profiled by Road & Track takes the cake, though I haven't seen it in person. The weirdest one I have actually seen was a real Austin Healey (not a Saxon kit) powered by the 2.5L Iron Duke out of a Chevy S-10. Compared to that, a mid-engine Toronado-powered Corvair is a masterpiece of engineering.
jays83gsl says:
11:03 AM, 09/12/09
I personally like all of the odd rotary swaps.
Early 80's / late 70's Corollas (Very popular in Aussie land), CRX, Civics, a Mazda MPV, and I'm sure there's others out there too.
huyracing says:
11:38 AM, 09/12/09
you like odd swaps, look at Formula D... RWD Scion TC with a NASCAR V8... lol.
there's the old school camaro SS with 2JZ-GTE swap, lol. Then again 2JZ swaps are going into everything these days... 350Z, Toyota Tacoma, S2000, Nissan Silvia, Nissan 240sx, Lexus IS300, GS300, ES300... the list goes on.
My friend is doing an LS1 Miata right now...
Porsche 914 w/ rotary swap is another project by a friend.
conceptvbs says:
04:38 PM, 09/12/09
@takawang
Because some people arent closed minded as yourself.
smilez says:
05:34 PM, 09/12/09
Agreed concepttvbs.
And comment #3...I think you're late for the short yellow bus.
I can't wait to see the final product.
I'm not a huge fan of the coupe, it's a little too much Tiburon, and I never liked that too much. But the Gen coupe is a step above none the less.
But I'm very interested to see what happens here.
It's because of people like Millen that the average Joe can buy a vehicle that may not be in contention with the top 5 vehicles and add the mods to compete (sleeper style).
church123 says:
05:52 PM, 09/12/09
scariest frankenstein I ever saw was a Honda K24 with a GT35R turbo and 150 shot nitrous system in the back of a......wait for it.....
First generation Mini. In mild trim it put down over 500 whp off the nitrous and the car weighed in well under 2000 lbs.
bankerdanny says:
06:31 PM, 09/12/09
Remember the Renault R5 Turbo? A Renault LeCar with a midmounted Turbo 4?
http://www.modified.com/features/0308scc_renault_r5_turbo_2/photo_07.html
http://www.modified.com/features/0308scc_renault_r5_turbo_2/photo_06.html
inlinesix says:
07:14 PM, 09/12/09
I'd like to see the finished product. This is a huge job! If I wanted another project I wouldn't mind starting with a Korean-made ride. A lot worse starting points than a Genesis Coupe.
mrbacon says:
09:16 PM, 09/12/09
The whole "Hyundai Building a Ferrari F430 Fighter" thing on the homepage is pretty deceptive. It's not really Hyundai doing the building at all, is it?
jyym says:
12:24 AM, 09/13/09
@takawang
That's funny considering the G Coupe is a "copy" of the Tiburon.
And I highly doubt the Koreans want to be like the shorter, more effeminate Japanese anyway.
mattkim85 says:
01:40 AM, 09/13/09
@takawang
you can go f**k yourself
relidtm says:
04:57 AM, 09/13/09
@takawang you should watch what you say, I'm surprised you haven't been banned what kind of comment is that? the most racist and close minded I have ever seen on edmunds in the 10 years I have been going on this site.
@ the car I'm interested to what is being developed I hated the tibby myself, but the new genesis besides the front lights doesn't look half bad , also a poor mans Ferrari? I can't wait to see what develops, when I went to the local auto show and saw the genesis sedan It was turning alot of heads, because it was beautiful for the most part, I liked most of the design except a few elements, I still bleed bmw, but it defiantly got me thinking about Hyundai stepping up the competition.
charlesb says:
07:46 AM, 09/13/09
Fun project but ultimately not something Hyundai is going to build.
thedream21479 says:
10:25 AM, 09/13/09
@MrBacon
It's not uncommon for manufacturers to use other "aftermarket" companies to develop specialty cars for SEMA. Toyota often uses Rod Millen Motorsport and a LOT of the manufacturers have brought in Chip Foose and 5-Axis Design to build SEMA cars.
alman08 says:
11:33 AM, 09/13/09
@mrbacon, very good for pointing that out.
@thedream21479, yes to what you said, but that would not mean Hyundai was building a Ferrari fighter. give mrbacon credit for pointing out what he saw and don't twist the fact.
alman08 says:
11:40 AM, 09/13/09
@thedream21479
also, it's the aftermarket companies that would use the car manufacturers car cores to build specialty cars for SEMA, and not automakers using aftermarket companies to do such.
aznraptor says:
12:59 PM, 09/13/09
how are they gonna handle cooling? o.0
Are they going to add huuuge scoops to the side or are they goiong to route coolant hoses to a radiator in the front? couldn't really tell where that radiator was but i'm guessing right-rear wheel area?
smihal says:
08:31 PM, 09/13/09
@jyym
The G coupe is a copy of the Tiburon? Thats the supidest thing I've ever heard. The only thing those two cars have in common is that they have 2 doors and they are built by Asian manufacturers
Although takawang is a moron, he is right when he says the Genesis is a G37 copy. The whole point of the car is to be a less expensive alternative to the G37/3 series coupe. I'm sure if you debadged both cars the general public couldn't tell you which is the Infinity and which is the Hyundai.
jyym says:
10:02 PM, 09/13/09
@smihal
Yes - the G is just as much of a "copy" of the Tib as the Genesis is supposedly of the G37.
The Genesis and the G37 have completely DIFFERENT shaped/sized headlamps, grilles and lower air dams at the front; the Genesis has a much more pronounced fender flares/wheel arches than the FLAT-sided G and has the crisscross character lines as well as the "dip" in the rear window; and the rears are completely different from shape of the taillamps and so on.
The only thing in common that the Genesis and the G have is the general 2+2 coupe silhouette.
And guess what?
The Tiburon ALSO SHARES the same general 2+2 silhouette as the Genesis (which is why many have stated the Genesis reminds them of the Tiburon), hence, if the Genesis is a "copy" of the G, then the G, along the same lines, is a "copy" of the Tiburon.
Basically, it's just ignorant trolls who just blab how the Genesis is a copy of the G and don't ever seriously look at all the major differences in design.
stephen987 says:
04:36 AM, 09/14/09
@takawang,
I think you need to go back to fifth grade. You missed half your spelling words on this test.
And tell your parents you need help forming sentences, k?
arumage says:
06:38 AM, 09/14/09
@takawang:
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that English isn't your first language because if it is... wow, you suck at it. You don't have to love Hyundai, but you have to respect them for the progress they're making while other Asian automakers are going downhill.
stingray454 says:
11:12 AM, 09/14/09
Cool, but that's an awful lot of work and money to put into a Hyundai.
arumage says:
01:36 PM, 09/14/09
stingray454,
You obviously haven't seem some of the cars at SEMA. Ever seen the W12 powered mid-engined Golf GTI?
smihal says:
03:12 PM, 09/14/09
@ jymm
FIRST of all. I never said the G and the Genesis look EXACTLY the same. Bringing up the fact that they have different headlights and that the genesis has more flared wheel arches is retarded. They are different cars. Obviously they will have visual differences.
I'm going to quote you here. I want you to read what you said and tell me if something doesn't sound right to you:
"The only thing in common that the Genesis and the G have is the general 2+2 coupe silhouette."
Are you f'ing kidding me? They are both 300ish HP RWD coupe's built by Asian manufacturers. What more do you want them to have in common?
You talk about the design relationship between the Tiburon and the G. The fact is the G35 coupe and the 2nd gen Tiburon (which I'm assuming is the one you are reffing to) were released about 6 months apart. Any similarities you see between them are purely coincidental. More likely a result of wind tunnel testing and pedestrian safety standards than anything else.
I could continue but I think I'm gonna go make myself a turkey sandwich instead.
amantimedic1 says:
09:20 PM, 09/14/09
Hey Smihal!!!!, Grab me a sandwich too, and a beer. As long as its not Guinness. Unless thats all u have.
amantimedic1 says:
09:33 PM, 09/14/09
First, I would have to say that the Tiburon and the Coup do look similiar, as far as any two door vehicle does. Especially two from the same manufacturer. But to call them copies of each other is going too far. One is a purpose built, recently designed RWD sports car, the other was a FWD shortened version of the previous generation Elantra sedan. You know, the 2001-2006 generation. But there is no refuting the fact the Hyundai had their eyes set on the Infinity G. This is not a bad thing, its called being competitive by setting benchmarks. And according to many car review editorials, Hyundai has built a better G then Infinity has. Im still waiting on that sandwich Smihal.
jyym says:
09:07 AM, 09/15/09
@smihal
Now stating that the Genesis is a "copy" of the G37 b/c they are both "300ish HP RWD coupe's built by Asian manufacturers" is RETARDED.
Following that "logic" - the Accord is a "copy" of the Camry since both are 170/270ish HP FWD mid-sized sedans built by Asian manufacturers.
Also, Hyundai started production of the 2nd gen Tib in 2001, the G35 coupe didn't start production until 2003.
Methinks you need to stop imbibing alcoholic beverages w/ your turket sandwich so that you can actually get your FACTS STRAIGHT.
smihal says:
02:56 PM, 09/15/09
@ Jyym
I can't believe I'm still at this, but here we go.
It is a "copy" of the G because it is a RWD 300hp V6 coupe that ALSO happens to look very very similar. Both of these facts together make it a copy. Nothing wrong with the car. But the Genesis looks too much like the G for me.
At the end of the day the Genesis is an attempt at a bargain G37. Hyundai clearly had it in mind when designing and building the Genesis. To argue otherwise is just wrong. As Amantimedic points out, this is not a bad thing. This is how the car industry works. Manufacturer X builds a successful product, and manufacturer Y builds their own interpretation of that vehicle. I just find the Genesis to look too similar to the G. Many, of not most, would agree.
For the record, I don't like either car. I have a BMW 335 coupe and will never own a Japanese/Korean car. They don't do it for me.
Arguing the Tiburon/G35 copy is just bizarre. We both know the G is not a copy of the Tiburon. The G35 is a 350z wrapped in Infinity clothing. The 350 is an evolution of the 300zx.
Amantimedic. I've got a few Heineken's left. No more turkey though. How bout some spicy chicken wings?
motorworldhype says:
04:26 PM, 09/16/09
Here is a video walkthrough of what Rhys has so far: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15xyYawZw84