GT-R Sets New Nurburgring Time; Still Slower Than ZR1

LOL rick8365

Nice attempt to spin a win out of a lose. Second place is still second best.

Admit it - the Corvette is just way better

Second place certainly is second best but the ZR1 also costs more money. The GT-R is an amazing car and offers a lot for its value (if you can call ~ $80,000 a value). If I had that kind of money I know I'd highly consider the GT-R.

Definitely not a bad time, I love all this fierce competition! I agree with rick8365, the GT-R is much more approachable than most super cars. Whether that's a good or a bad thing I'm not 100% sure.

I like both cars quite a bit....it's just when I watched the footage from the ZR1 lap there were a few points during the lap that almost had me soiling my drawers. The GT-R seems to get it done with a fair amount less drama.

I'll take second place in the GT-R considering its underpowered and grossly over weight compared to the ZR1. No doubt the ZR1 is a extreme car and preforms better than most of us thought it would in the world of corners, but the GT-R's numbers are still staggering considering its disadvantages. But still... #1.ZR1 #2. GT-R (for now).

Yeah, you're average person can handle a GT-R much better than a ZR-1, especially under less than ideal conditions. That and the fact that it's $20k cheaper makes the 3 tenths acceptable to me.

Really neither of them is a winner because the Dodge Viper ACR beat them both.

The ZR-1 costs at least $20k more and has 153 more hp and it can only manage .3s faster?

You should really be comparing the GT-R's time to the Z06's 7:42.9 considering they're closer in terms of price and power.

2nd place is still pretty frigging good.

Given all the advantages the Corvette ZR1 (weighs 500lbs less/substantial power/torque advantage) has over the regular GTR one would think the time differences would more significant. Both do excellent on the track.

you'd have to find out if the tires used on the gt-r that just went 7:26.7 is the same stock tires found on gt-r's from the showroom floor.

the zr-1 used the same stock tires. the tires on the viper, though street legal, are more like racing tires (and equipped with a large rear wing at that).

the gt-r has pretty much run its full stock potential; i believe the zr-1 still has a full second reduction left in it.

pretty good driving on the gt-r though.

"Still slower than a ZR1"

Oh boy.

I'm not a Godzilla fanboy but:

1. That driver is god. With a little less "push" he would have done better.
2.Godzilla sounds relaxed at crazy revs. It was fun to see the driver hold it above red line when he needed to. However those front tires can't last long.
3. Godzilla has back seats and a trunk?
4. I love that through You Tube I recognize "The Ring" even though I will never hold it in my head like these drivers do.
5. Godzilla doesn't resonate with me as I don't speak the language; just like Godzilla fanboys don't understand Corvettes. But that is one impressive ride!

GTR was running Spec V tires and wheels, and the Track suspension setup which you can have dialed in at a dealer.

i want to see a GTR with the same power as the ZR1 go around the track. see what happens then. give it a GT600 power pack and some better brakes.

Remember the Law of Diminishing Returns. GM's engineering answer to making the 'Vette go faster and faster is to keep putting bigger and more powerful engine in it. Eventually you'll come to a point where pure horsepower isn't enough, that's why there is such a small difference in the lap times. This also is an example of how the domestic automakers like to "design and engineer" cars: More and Bigger = Better.

I waited 3 months till i get my GTR. i was anxious to beat my friend's ZR1. I was really disappointed....
May be GTR is so close to ZR1 on track, BUT it has has NO CHANCE with ZR1 on highways.
I love my GTR but when i drag-race ZR1 on highway i feel it is underpowered.

But wait! What's that on the horizon? Is that a VSpec II!? *gasp*

wy_vern. you were expecting a 500hp awd car that weighs 4000lbs with you in it to beat a 640hp car that weighs 3500 lbs with a driver???

well in that case like i said above go to GT-RR and get one of their power kits and you'll be able to keep up or pass him/her. or go to switzer performance or hennessy performance and get the 800 hp versions.

From the looks of the rims on that youtube video, that did look like a Spec-V GT-R. I wonder if Nissan is hiding out the Spec-V for that lap or if that was really a base GT-R. But if that really was a base GT-R and not a Spec-V, then Nissan has the Corvette ZR-1 with the Spec-V. I'm hoping I'm wrong that that was a Spec-V.

And PERSONALLY, I too would consider it a draw. I mean really, 3-tenths of a second slower on that track, BIG woop. That really isn't much of a difference for anybody to notice experiencing. Please, I still call it 7:26.

"I waited 3 months till i get my GTR. i was anxious to beat my friend's ZR1. I was really disappointed...."

Wy_Vern, the specs alone should have given you a sense of what the outcome would be between the ZR1 and the GTR in terms of straight line acceleration. Looking at these specs would instantly tell me which car would (easily) win in a drag race. I usually don't condone "paper racing" but in this case its factual.

ZR1 specs: 638hp/604ftlbs - 3324lbs
GTR specs: 480hp/434ftlbs - 3820lbs

Even the 505hp Z06 can hand the GTR its ass in a straight line as it has a much better power to weight ratio.

On the contrary, one could also use these same paper stats to gather assumptions on which car could go around a track faster and it would seem (at least on paper) the ZR1 would once again significantly dominate the GTR on the track. Although the ZR1 is dominant on the track, its only by the blink of an eye. This is where the GTR becomes ridiculously impressive as it uses its (lower) amount of resources/advantages more efficiently vs the ZR1. Both the ZR1 and GTR offer ridiculous amounts of performance but when considering all around performance the Nissan seems to be more substantial given its lower price, and all its "disadvantages" vs the ZR1.

Although both cars are top notch offerings neither really get my blood flowing as both seem to lack purity based on specs and reviews from various publications. Of course I'm basing my own beliefs on assumptions as I haven't driven either. However, I'd like something more raw, tactile, communicative, normally aspirated, civil/docile and something that relies on finesse and technique more than brute force to get the job done.

Unfortunately, my preference has yet to surface as there is no ultra high performance sports car that meets my aforementioned qualifications that can match or exceed the performance of the ZR1 or the GTR although the Lexus LF-A and the Honda NSX successor sound very interesting. The worst part about those cars is the potentially high price.

Although this car doesn't come anywhere close in performance to the GTR or ZR1 I find it to be more in line with what type of package I'd choose if I were to purchase a high end high performance sports car. That car is the Porsche GT3.

3/10ths of a second is something you'd notice 0-60, but it is practically nothing over a 7 1/2 minute run. Particularly where is took like an extra 20 grand and a bunch more ponies to eek out that slim margin. Sure the Vette is faster (barely), but I'd rather have the more accessible drivability of the Nissan. AND that giant wad of extra cash in my pocket.

I would love for someone to do an inspection on that GT-R - you know, check it on a dyno, get it on a lift and check out the suspension, etc. I find it very suspicious that nobody outside of Nissan has been able to get anywhere near that low of a lap time in a GT-R. Especially when you look at the power/weight ratio of that car - it doesn't add up, even with AWD. A stock GT-R should run the 'ring in about 7:45, at best.

I'd bet my left nut the GT-R Nissan runs these lap times with is putting down MUCH more than 500hp. Nissan could EASILY crank the boost up and run over 600hp for their 'ring car, and nobody would know. Since there is no governing body, and no inspections, it's easy to cheat on 'ring times.

This is the regular GT-R or a V-Spec version? 3/10 of a second not bad from the ZR-1 time. Just drop 150 lbs of mass from the car and you get similar times.

I think it is funny how all of you love talking about how the ZR1 is the faster car even if it is only by a couple of tenths. The ZR1 weighs atleast 600 lbs less and is rated at over 150hp more and all it can put is a few 10th's between it and the GTR?? ....I think that is kind of pathetic and shows how much better handling car the GTR is to make up that kind of a weight/power deficit. More to the point, though, is the fact that if 90% of you GTR bashers got in both of these cars to set a lap time, I can almost guarantee that nearly every one of you would wreck the ZR1 with the 1st minute of your lap where as in the GTR, with it's predicatable and repeatable AWD system, might actually have a chance of coming out alive and not being part of the guard rail.

3/10ths is nothing when u look at power to weight ratio. i think its pretty sad on the zr1's part to tell the truth.