In a press conference this morning in Dearborn, Ford officials finally confirmed what was already widely expected: Ecoboost technology will come to smaller four-cylinder engines soon.
It's the next logical step as Ford has said that it will eventually offer Ecoboost engines across its entire lineup. Ford says the smaller Ecoboost engines will deliver V6 performance while retaining the fuel economy of a typical four-cylinder engine.
We'll have more details as they are released, but for now we're left to speculate which vehicle will the new engine first?
Focus? Fiesta? Fusion?
UPDATE: Engine will displace 2.0-liters and deliver at least 230-horsepower and at least 240 pound-feet of torque. Ford officials hinted that the first application is not necessarily a car. Given that this engine will most likely replace Ford's 3.0-liter V6, the next Escape looks like a pretty good candidate for this Ecoboost engine.
stephen987 says:
07:37 AM, 07/21/09
Fusion SVT.
flwind says:
08:00 AM, 07/21/09
Fiesta HB with 230hp would be killer..I would buy one in a heartbeat...
brn says:
09:10 AM, 07/21/09
I thought this had already been confirmed?
The 2.0L sounds like a good fit for the Fusion. Maybe a 1.6L for eco-minded folk. When can we get a 1.2L version for the Focus? I'd like to see some major mpg increases there.
oberg says:
09:10 AM, 07/21/09
"Ecoboost engines will deliver V6 performance while retaining the fuel economy of a typical four-cylinder engine."
What a novel concept! Europe has been doing this for years. On a recent road trip in my '04 Mini S JCW, I got 36.7 miles to the gallon, while fully enjoying the 208 hp and 180 ft torque.
compliance says:
09:32 AM, 07/21/09
Fiesta! Fiesta! Fiesta!
roar02ram says:
09:43 AM, 07/21/09
Escape - a turbo 4 in a small SUV is a tested application (RDX, CX-7). I just don't know why they think it's a good idea given that the engines in those cars have been panned.
It'd be awfully gutsy to START with the Fusion & the Fiesta or Focus seems to go against the "V-6 like" power claim. Def Escape.
roar02ram says:
09:44 AM, 07/21/09
Maybe Explorer or Ranger?
inlinesix says:
10:04 AM, 07/21/09
Good to hear Ford.
7driver says:
10:36 AM, 07/21/09
EcoBoost 2.0l, eh? I wonder if this is Mazda's DISI bits fitted to the MZR20 or if it's something else.
For that matter, they could have had a Fusion EcoBoost 2.3l years ago by swapping in the DISI from the CX7.
greenpony says:
10:48 AM, 07/21/09
It beats the base Mustang engine. Why not drop it in there? A 230 hp 30+ mpg Mustang would be pretty sweet.
bc1960 says:
10:51 AM, 07/21/09
@roar02ram, I don't know that the CX-7 was panned, but the 2.3l DI turbo is not tuned for fuel economy and the CX-7 weighs 355 lb (FWD) to 425 lb (AWD) more than an Escape 4-cylinder; so it has more torque than the 3.0l V6 but the fuel economy stinks.
If the numbers for the 2.0l EcoBoost pan out, it might deliver almost the same power and torque as the V6 with fuel economy closer to the 2.5l normally aspirated 4. Note that a Jetta SportWagen with the 2.0l (gasoline) turbo 4 gets 10% better city mileage and the same highway mileage as the with the 2.5l 5-cylinder, with 18% more power and 17% more torque.
arumage says:
01:04 PM, 07/21/09
@roar02ram:
The CX-7 and RDX weigh 3700-3900 and 3900 lbs respectively. Torque is pretty low until 3000 rpms so the engine's working very hard until that turbo kicks in. That curb weight with a peaky turbo engine requiring premium fuel isn't an ideal solution in my book.
Ecoboost uses the twin turbos to create a flat torque curve which would be much better at handling the added weight in everyday driving situations. Torque is available in mass quantities at nearly idle.
crowb says:
02:26 PM, 07/21/09
This is awesome. Put this in the Fiesta hatch and ohhhh man!
epwolfram says:
03:04 PM, 07/21/09
I might buy the new Focus if they offer the turbo motor in it. Otherwise, I'll be looking at mazdaspeed 3 or WRX
Just so you know, the drawbacks to turbo (and why you haven't seen them much in American cars) are as follows:
1) More expensive parts and assembly at factory than a bigger NA engine.
2) Requires Premium Fuel
3) Less Reliable engine (more moving parts + more stress on engine components)
4) Power boost is not immediate (turbo-lag)
given all that, they allow you to generate more power with a lighter engine.. which is great for performance cars... Focus RS please!
4g63 says:
03:49 PM, 07/21/09
i dont know if its possible but i do hope this engine can burn regular fuel.. i think all turbo engines require premium fuel. if this engine is to replace the regular-drinking V6, will consumer like the idea of paying extra for premium fuel...?
billt9 says:
04:18 PM, 07/21/09
I'm doubting the mpg...
So far even the EcoBoost Taurus has failed to show improved fuel economy.
Plus now the turbo recommends Premium gas.
So, same mpg, more expensive gas, engine note of an I4.
brn says:
04:20 PM, 07/21/09
epwolfram, part of the draw to the ecoboost is that your issues #2 and #4 become non issues.
atenza94546 says:
05:06 PM, 07/21/09
A SVT Escape with 1.6L turbo should range around 170hp to 200hp with Realtime All Wheel Drive and then lower the heights about an inch put in an 18 inches wheels, put a Hybrid system to boost another 25hp to 30hp. This will be a gas saving with pretty good performance out their were it fits between Honda and Toyota. But it has to be price around a full load Hyundai Santa Fe. That will be a new market. If with a 2.3L Hybrid 4WD sales around $30k to $33K. This should be some where around $20k to $28K but may be I am wrong so let see if Ford might consider.
torque1788 says:
05:53 PM, 07/21/09
The ecoboost motors do not require premium fuel they can be run on regular fuel with no problem and because ford uses smaller turbos there little to no lag...These engines are amazing to say the least
redgeminipa says:
04:09 AM, 07/22/09
230 hp and 240 lb.ft.? I'd rather have the GM 2.0T ... 260/260 and 30 MPG. I'm surprised they didn't drop that into the new LaCrosse instead of the 2.4 that's going into it. Especially considering when the LaCrosse was spotted testing a while back, it was running with a Passat 2.0T. Even a detuned 2.0T would be better than the DI 2.4. They could tune it to about 230 hp and be ahead of VW/Audi, and it should still get over 30 MPG.
redgeminipa says:
04:14 AM, 07/22/09
Oh, and I don't think Ford will be promoting the new EcoBoost 4cyl as a performance application. Afterall, that would impact the cost of insurance. A smart move would be to keep "SVT" out of the strategy for a while. You don't see VW promoting the 2.0T in the Passat as a performance engine, do you?