Last week we were alerted to one of the first known breakdowns of the 2010 Chevrolet Camaro. Turns out it may not have been an isolated incident as GM has now issued a recall to realign a battery cable that could cause a short.
According to the recall, it only affects certain Camaros with a V8 engine. Turns out the positive battery cable rubs on the starter housing which could eventually wear the protective insulation away and cause a short. GM is advising owners not to drive their cars and will provide courtesy transportation to the dealership.
Chicago Tribune: GM Recalls 300 Camaros for Battery Cable Fix
benson2175 says:
11:37 AM, 05/ 6/09
Just die already.
alman08 says:
11:57 AM, 05/ 6/09
i hate to say it, but i agree with benson. gm, just do us all a fav and fold it up
aaguilar1 says:
12:18 PM, 05/ 6/09
OHHHH boy! Just as i thought, Chevy can no longer build anything and its sad to say that the bowtie needs to be flushed away...i agree with benson and alman...na na na na,,,na na na na. hey hey hey,,,goodbye!
aaguilar1 says:
12:19 PM, 05/ 6/09
OHHHH boy! Just as i thought, Chevy can no longer build anything and its sad to say that the bowtie needs to be flushed away...i agree with benson and alman...na na na na,,,na na na na. hey hey hey,,,goodbye!
porschecarrera says:
12:31 PM, 05/ 6/09
Ahh, no big deal, it's just an isolated incident. Turns out the overpaid UAW factory worker measuring the battery cable thought he was working in centimeters instead of inches.
actualsize says:
01:33 PM, 05/ 6/09
Tape? TAPE??!!
estreka says:
01:57 PM, 05/ 6/09
Has anyone actually seen a Camaro on the road yet?
hondacura4 says:
02:19 PM, 05/ 6/09
Didnt this car just go on sale?
carfreak189 says:
02:27 PM, 05/ 6/09
Wow, this is not good for GM. There on life support trying to survive and they have a recall on one of their most anticipated vehicles. This is not what they need. Hopefully the problems dont continue.
GT5000 says:
02:46 PM, 05/ 6/09
I can't see the big deal, all manufacturers have recalls, especially on first year models. Saying that GM should die for this is just stupid. Toyota had a recall last month, should they die? Kia just recalled most of their lineup for the last three years, and you people pick on the Camaro for a worn cable?
subytrojan says:
03:18 PM, 05/ 6/09
LOL @ Dan's (actualsize) comment!
I would've thought the thousands of miles of testing would've produced this. I guess not. :(
DCuerpoJr says:
03:20 PM, 05/ 6/09
@GT5000
I agree with you that all manufacturers have recalls, especially on first year models.
However, I believe the many tax paying Americans are upset with GM's plee for a multibillion dollar bail out. Let alone the billions of dollars given to bail out banks and other financial institutions.
Many Americans remember the quality and reliability issues that GM vehicles were synonomous for through the late 70's to early 90's. In their perspective (including mine) they believe that if GM simply made better products that are able to compete against the likes of Toyota, Honda, and even Ford, they would not have been in this dire situation.
To see a recall on a vehicle that just left the manufacturing plant is a slap in the face for customers that already placed a deposit for it and further solidifies the idea that bailing GM out now will only fail in reviving a dying company.
the_big_al says:
03:27 PM, 05/ 6/09
Yeesh. A minor recall. MINOR. And it only affects a very small amount of vehicles.
GT5000 says:
03:30 PM, 05/ 6/09
@DCuerpoJr
I can understand that, but my problem is that if this had happenned to the Genesis coupe, everyone would be saying "Oh no big deal, it could happen to anyone." The only reason it's taking so much flak for this is because it is built by an American company.
desmolicious says:
03:50 PM, 05/ 6/09
Is this the same tape they are using to hold the anti-noise weights onto the brake calipers?
beermagazine says:
03:56 PM, 05/ 6/09
Everybody needs to chill..ALL, every single one, car companies have issues. If you look at the survey's all of them are problems per 1,000 or hundred.
So a recall on a new model is really nothing. It happens and happens to the best.
beermagazine says:
03:57 PM, 05/ 6/09
Everybody needs to chill..ALL, every single one, car companies have issues. If you look at the survey's all of them are problems per 1,000 or hundred.
So a recall on a new model is really nothing. It happens and happens to the best.
When it's an American company people us all negative terms...when its' Honda or BMW people say "well they fix it"
They will fix it and it will be fine. It's a great car for $33K. American or anywhere.
edarya says:
04:03 PM, 05/ 6/09
An American company that is taking American taxpayers' money with inadequate plans and subpar efforts to revive its reputation?
As an American taxpayer, I see this recall as a poor reflection on GM and its quality control.
Fortunately, or more appropriately, kudos to Hyundai a similar recall is not affecting its brand new Genesis coupe.
DCuerpoJr says:
04:08 PM, 05/ 6/09
@GT5000
True, American auto companies have taken a lot of flak from consumers and the media for recalls while foreign companies are rarely critisized to the same extent. It's a bad rap that Ford, GM & Chrysler became notorious for between the late 70's and early 90's. In fact I have a 95' Ford that suffers from way too many problems when compared to my 98' Honda.
Another thing to take into account, recalls always vary on severity. For example, Toyota announced a large recall on 2008 Highlanders with faulty exaust tips that were at risk of falling off. (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=146967). It didn't cause any damage to the car itself and nothing life threatening, so many consumers think of it as a minor problem.
Meanwhile, GM had 3 major recalls, 2 based on The vehicles with 3.8 liter engines, which contain a defect that may cause oil to leak and potentially cause a car fire. Even though it turned out to be a quick and simple fix, in my eyes, that's a serious and potentially life threatening problem. For many consumers, it's unforgivable.
DCuerpoJr says:
04:12 PM, 05/ 6/09
Oh by the way, I was debating on whether to buy a new Camaro or Challenger...but with one facing immediate recalls and the other in bankruptcy I think I'll go with a Mustang.
jederino says:
04:38 PM, 05/ 6/09
Recalls are common. My 1997 Maxima had a minor recall in the first year, and after it was inspected at a dealership ran trouble-free for 10 years.
stovt001 says:
04:39 PM, 05/ 6/09
Really DCuerpo, a fix on a FEW (read, not all) cars from 1 trim level (read again, not all) is enough to be a dealbreaker. That comment is almoster dumber than the first two here.
Speaking of the first two, when I worked at a Toyota dealer, Siennas were recalled due to seatbelts that detached in the case of an accident, Prii were recalled for steering rack failures, Scion tCs were recalled for side airbags that would deploy when the door was shut, and the brand spanking new Camry had a "warranty enhancement" (Toyota won't use the word recall) for transmissions that just randomly froze stone solid. There were more but I forgot half of them (that's a lot of stuff in one summer to remember) and after a while I just stopped paying attention and assumed that any given car was already under recall. If GM deserves to die because a handful of bad cables, then by that logic every Toyota employee should be publicly tortured and killed. Does that really make any sense?
DCuerpoJr says:
05:26 PM, 05/ 6/09
@stov001
Sure, it's a few cars from 1 trim level...remember the add-on weights on the brake calipers to reduce noise on the same trim level? It seems to me that GM rushed to get the Camaro out before doing some final revisions. It begs to question if there are other cost cutting provisions they made on this car. Guess you'll have to wait until 2011 for the corrections to be made from the first model year. Then again, who knows if they'll still be around by then.
The example on the severity of recalls wasn't intended to put Toyota vs GM...though I could have used a better example. My main point was to illustrate the difference of a perceived minor/major recall and how it affects a customer's decision. It's even more critical during this tough economy where auto sales are down 40% across the board.
cwc1 says:
05:38 PM, 05/ 6/09
I just knew the GM haters would come out of the bandwidth...
DCuerpoJr says:
05:40 PM, 05/ 6/09
True, all auto manufactures have recalls; minor and major. But in the end GM & Chrysler are the ones asking for a huge bailout from us. Not Toyota, Ford, VW, etc.
The recent recalls from them are a poor reflection on their ability to make well built vehicles. In addition to their inability to effectively adjust to an ever changing market and their inability to reduce labor/manufacturing costs before the financial crisis occurred. If the decision were left up to the tax payers then both GM and Chrysler won't receive another dime.
joeo26 says:
05:45 PM, 05/ 6/09
I don't hate GM, I was actually looking at getting one of these beasts.. However it makes you wonder how much of their around the world testing claims are true :/. Also all companies DO have recalls, but GM is the one that does NOT need them right now. This little fix is now payed for by you and me :).
stovt001 says:
05:55 PM, 05/ 6/09
"True, all auto manufactures have recalls; minor and major. But in the end GM & Chrysler are the ones asking for a huge bailout from us. Not Toyota, Ford, VW, etc."
Maybe not from us, but from their own governments (except Ford, obviously) of course they are. Almost every single automaker across the world is being supported by government efforts now. So Toyota can have crappy reliability and tons of recalls, and get loans from their own government as well as subsidies from our own government, and we can be ok with that, but not GM. Stop trying to give reasons. The GM bashers need to just admit that they simply have a vendeta against GM, and all these "reasons" given simply don't hold up when facts come into play. To hate GM for getting government loans while worshiping Toyota, which was subsidized for years by our government and its own, is either ignorance, a double standard, or a stupid excuse thrown up as a feeble defense.
cwc1 says:
06:21 PM, 05/ 6/09
GM hasn't been able to reduce labor costs because the UAW has had its hands around their neck for years and years, with the protection of state and national laws and the encouragement of a certain political party. While that hasn't been the only cause of the company's solvency problems, the UAW has helped to kill the very industry they work for.
And these loans, along with the other crazy government spending on steroids, is not paid for by you and I. If it's ever to be paid back at all, it will be future generations that will be saddled with it. The government is broke and has been broke for years. They just print more counterfeit money to "pay" for it, and pass the problems on to people that haven't even been born yet, while stealing from us by the massive currency devaluation that results. Our fiat currency will not survive at this rate.
greenpony says:
07:04 PM, 05/ 6/09
How embarrassing.
kurtamaxxxguy says:
07:52 PM, 05/ 6/09
Not unique:
VW recalled Tiguans for emission control recalibration just before they were sold,
Subaru recalled a whole bunch of Turbo '09's just after introduction to track down a possible engine failure issue.
First year cars have first year introductory issues.
Same's true for software, consumer products, houses, medical procedures .... anything created or done for the first time usually has a glitch.
msdaisy says:
11:41 PM, 05/ 6/09
GM Total Confidence...lol
flicmod says:
05:22 AM, 05/ 7/09
LOL, msdaisy :-)
chisss says:
05:51 AM, 05/ 7/09
Geez people... it's just a cable that is causing a short! it's not the engine that is not designed properly and blowing up! or anything like that!
This is nothing compared to other manufacturer's recalls... BMW MINI had a recall where the Power steering pump could fail and ingite into flames and nobody seemed to make a stink about it...
billt9 says:
01:10 PM, 05/ 7/09
This is a simple fix.
As this letter states, the dealer will fix it with but a simple little piece of duct tape.
You can do it yourself too.
The dealers are just out of duct tape for a day.