Should the G8 become the Chevy Camaro SS Sedan?

Oh HELL NO.

First, NO. JUST NO.

Secondly, there is no reason the G8 can't be used for family duty. It is huge, comfy, and respectable. So it can either be an Impala or a Buick of some sort.

Third, the Camaro and G8's engines are NOT exactly the same. Not even close. Not in the least bit. They both offer a V6 and a V8. The GXP and SS both offer the LS3. The similarities end there.

Fourth, there are 3 series sedans and coupes, so there can be M3 sedans and coupes. There is and never has been a Camaro sedan.

Fifth, the G8 is a fine, wonderful car. I really hope GM gives it to one of their brands and allows it to live on (with better styling). The Camaro is not the only place for a sporty brand in GM.

Finally, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD NO!

I think it would be okay to use the Impala or Monte Carlo nameplate on a Zeta sedan.

LOL @ stovt001's initial response.

I would rather them use the Impala or Chevelle name. A 4 door Camaro seems wrong.

No just kill the Impala and make the G8 the new Impala SS.

How about naming it the Caprice SS? That's the name this car sales under in the Middel East.

Sacrilege!

I agree with the people above, leave the Camaro nameplate alone. However, I will say this, that car in the artist rendition is goregous. Chevy should def keep it alive. I usually only purchase european cars (I currently own an E55 AMG and an E46 M3 amogst other things), but I am def considering purchasing a G8 GT as a daily driver. The car looks fantastic in person. Never been a huge Pontiac fan, but this is a sad day in the GM world.

I'd love for GM to replace the current Impala with a Chevy version of the G8. Your ideas even work for the styling. I'd do everything I could do buy one!

"to" buy one...

Maybe since even Karl B has been bitten by the lack of the edit function, there's hope it will finally happen.

YES!! Chevy should get the G8! But NOT as a Camaro Sedan! Thats the stupidest thing I ever heard of!! But the G8 SHOULD turn into a new Impala!!!

KILL IMPALA and replace it with G8

LONG LIVE THE GRAND NATIONAL

I don't care what they call it so long as they keep making it and improve it with the Camaro's powertrains.

G8 = Chevelle SS.

Do it GM. Do it.

lol i was about to say that too. sent it to buick. nice try with the lacrosse super..but they need a new grand national/regal! if they can turbo the ecotec, i'd love to see a turbocharged direct-injected 3.6 in there for a new GNX!

+1 on Impala or Chevelle. Impala as a replacement for the current Impala & as a Taurus/Maxima fighter, Chevelle as a halo performance car a la the Camaro.

Given that I think the Camaro & Corvette are halo enough, I think the business case is stronger for Impala.

There's no need to name this car Camaro. There's about as much precedent for using Camaro as their is for using Corvette. Both are bad ideas.

this car would be perfect for a new grand national. Imagine it with the buick side gills, and buick new interior design, the cts would have serious competition.

I was going to say that I agree with Creeper and bosstedbuick, but the Grand National was another coupe. You might as well go with the Camaro Sedan; at least as it would affect car guys. Totally re-badge it as the Caprice, or, hell, just make it the Chevy G8, and make the GXP into the G8 SS.

I was going to say that I agree with Creeper and bosstedbuick, but the Grand National was another coupe. You might as well go with the Camaro Sedan; at least as it would affect car guys. Totally re-badge it as the Caprice, or, hell, just make it the Chevy G8, and make the GXP into the G8 SS.

"Why not a four-door Camaro?" Have you hired some clown from DC to ghost-write this blog? Isn't that the same sort of inane question that got our industry into the mess it's in?

There's an M3 sedan because there's a 3 Series sedan. That's pretty much a no-brainer.

stovt001 hit it right on the nose.

remember when everyone found out the Charger was being revived as a four door? Similar outpouring of rage. As far as I can tell, they are popular in the New York City area, and nobody really cares that there are two extra doors. I'd wager the same would happen with a Camaro 4 door.

Ok GM you definitely can do it but only on two conditions. American auto market must see

1. A new compact roadster Chevy Silverado

2. A new full size SUV Chevy Aveo

Honestly I don't care what it's called. From the reviews I read, it's a nice car, so it would be a shame if it didn't stick around. If the Charger can be a four-door, why not the Camaro too? Seems to me there was a Mustang four-door concept a few years back.

If this was the idea at someone directly from GM, that person should be terminated immediately for even suggesting the idea of a 4-door Camaro....

OK, as the proud owner of an '08 G8, I can say that GM really needs to keep this car around, but it should not be called a Camaro! No other sedan in the GM lines comes close to being a true competitor for the Japanese/German sport sedans! I agree with the others that have posted that it would be a great replacement for the Impala, maybe even the Chevelle name. The image above is proof enough that it would be one of the best looking cars they could offer! Personally, I think it looks even hotter than my G8. The only other things that would make it better than the G8 is if GM would rework the interior. Better radio/speakers (even with the top line system it needs help), different steering wheel (it's huge)! Nothing else should change!
GM, please do this! This would be a far better sedan to own/drive than the Malibu!

NO, and if that isn't clear enough: NO!!!

Dodge had to create a separate nameplate -- Challenger -- to deal with the mess they made by having a four-door Charger. GM already has the coupe named Camaro, so that route won't work.

I like the Impala SS idea or, if they don't want to mess with the Impala line, they either can leave it at "G8" or use another Chevy nameplate, like the Nomad. (I never liked Chevelle).

But a four-door Camaro? Not a good idea!

This car should be migrated to Chevy. All the certification work, tooling, etc. is there; just put a bowtie on the front end and it’s ready to go.

chevy used to have a caprice and now they can still have a caprice

http://www.holden.com.au/vehicles/Caprice

The G8 is being sold as an Impala in some countries. Why can't GM just replace it with the unloved Impala? Although I think a Camaro sedan is not a totally bad idea. It will attract some younger buyers than a Impala would IMO.

Oops.. correction.. i meant GM should replace the unloved current gen Impala with the G8 and make it the new Impala.

With the Cruze coming along soon, the Impala and Aveo remain the only giant holes in Chevy's lineup. Call it the Impala SS, and call it a day.

I have no clue what to do about the Aveo, but that's not really the point here.

YES CHEVY SHOULD BUILD THIS CAR!!! Like the others, I would have to agree to leave Camaro as a two door. The Impala name would work for this car and bring it back into the days when it was known as more than just a decent rental car. I have been praying to the automotive gods that Chevy would turn the Impala back to rear wheel drive. The Chevelle name sounds intriguing but the Impala has been the best selling domestic car for a good number of years so it would be a shame to retire the name. If Chevy builds this car, it will be on my short list when I pay my Cobalt off in 2011.

AND TAKE AWAY THAT FAKE HOOD SCOOP!

http://www.chevrolet.co.za/content_data/LAAM/ZA/en/GBPZA/001/models/1F/gallery.html

wow how sad it is too hear Ponitac will be in the grave with Oldmobile. I think GM is making a hudge mistake. yes get rid of HUMMER AND SABB and maybe even GMC (after all there just rebadged Chevy's) if you want a truck go to a chevy dealer! how can one even consider a camero sedan, that would be a huge mistake. If the model has never been a four door in the past leave it alone. Now is not the time for experiments. GM needs to stick to what is tried and true.I dont think its an option to send the g8 back to Austraila the car is one of gms best in a decade! This car has was designed and marketed compete with the imports like BMW. Almost every review you read makes some comparison between the two. Thus, this model should be at a chevy dealer.I think this car should be sold as Buick Regal GNX. (ad solgan could be "the beast is back" in the back ground AC/DC's Back in Black would be playing).

Weird, I was actually debating this very thing in my mind the other night! My conclusion then? Call it the Chevelle. Leave the Impala as a fleet-friendly FWD until its redesign in a couple years.

Or else brand it a Buick... just don't tack on $5000 to the price for that honor and ruin its awesome value.

and problem solved!

http://www.chevrolet.com.br/action/sessionAction?func=Static&cntry_cd=BR&lang_cd=pt&website_cd=GBPBR§ion=CarHome&subSection=Omega

Where did these images come from? GM definitely needs to keep the G8 around. The styling in these photos look great. Although they shouldn't use the Camero nameplate, why not just create a new one. Would that really effect sales?

* Camaro

these images came from GM chevy all over the globe except here in the USA! go figure!

these images came from GM chevy all over the globe except here in the USA! go figure!

if they make that car just like in the picture it shouldnt be called camaro different front back everything from the one every ones talking about.
maybe call it a impala or just make another name
but it would be cool if they a camaro sedan look just the coupe

I see no problem with Chevy getting this awesome car, since Pontiac is being given the boot. I think it would make a great replacement for the Impala. With the Malibu as big as it is now, there really is no need for the Impala to be FWD. I think a RWD turbo V6 Impala makes perfect sense to fill out the line of cars. With the new Spark and Cruze coming soon and the possibility of a RWD Impala or Chevelle (that just sounds cool!!!), Chevy may FINALLY have a desirable car LINE, not just a nice model and the others still languishing in mediocrity. I say give it to Buick, too, but just platform sharing, not badge engineering. It's already sold as a Park Avenue in other countries, and I see nothing wrong with that either. Any way you look at it, keeping the G8 around in other forms makes business sense for GM.

Thats Blasphemy!!!!!!!!!!!

It would be an extremely nice Chevelle SS. Or even an Impala SS, but the Impala's name is now better known as a family sedan.

Yes, keep Chevelle, guys. And let's make it a real success. G8 sounds nothing, but Chevelle...

They should do it.

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

if pontiac goes dead not like there goin to care but dont call it a camaro, it doesnt look anything like a camaro, call it malibu SS or maybe if some older guy wants 400 hp coming out of his buick lacrosse super

"Oh HELL NO" - stovt001

I agree. Leave the Camaro alone. Use the G8 as a model to base upon for the new Impala SS.

I don't care what you call it. It needs to be Chevy and not Buick (sorry BPG dealers). I never liked the Pontiac look. It was my biggest G8 turn-off. The images on the "article", however, are just hot.

Caprice SS! GM must keep this car in its U.S. lineup as although its a lower volume car it is significant to GM.

I think GM should find SOME way of keeping the G8 and even the solstice in the lineup, either Chevy or Buick. Call it a chevy c8 or chevy solstice or something, they are both solid cars and have only been around for a short time and should have some time to gain traction in the marketplace. Lots of people shop chevy and it would give that nameplate some stronger products to compete with Ford. GM should be following these comments closely.

I only skimmed the posts, but im gonna go out on a limb and say pretty much everyone agrees no, this should be the next Impala. Ofcourse this would be a not smart move because replacing a decent mileage fwd with a not so good mileage rwd doesn't spell profitability or responsiblity in these times. It's nice to think about though. The current Impala is so big and pllain, and this move could push the Malibu to be a bigger seller, making the two compete less for sales.

Chevy should not get rid of the current FWD Impala. I see a lot of folks calling for that, but up here in the Snow Belt, FWD is absolutely necessary.

Fa sho they should seriously keep da G8 as tha Camaro SS Sedan its a SPORTS SEDAN made for PERFORMANCE and for family hauling but not just for family hualing Chevy has da Impala and Malibu for dat................Chevy Needs a serious sedan to compete with da charger srt8 or da 300c srt8 they should seriously keep it as da Camaro SS Sedan they need it! ! ! !

@albook

They could keep a FWD Impala in V6 or 4cylinder variants as regular models to appeal to people looking for a fuel efficient car that's larger than the Malibu. Then a performance version can be introduced as an Impala SS based on the G8 GT or GXP.

Just don't call it a Camaro!!! Please make this the Impala and Impala SS!!! That's the first thing that came to mind when I found out Pontiac was done. Make the Impala a RWD family sedan again. The G8 is PERFECT for that.

Don't be silly. It should be the Chevelle and Chevelle SS. Maybe even Nova, although that name doesn't carry the performane aura that Chevelle does.

A Chevy badged G8 would make a worthy successor to the SS396 and LS-6 Chevelles of the late 60's early 70's.

This is a no-brainer. you don't just kick a perfectly good car to the curb if you don't have to.

Heck yeah, that would be a good idea. In opposition of the majority of people here, I don't see a problem with expanding the Camaro line-up. Update the Impala and leave it where it is, a Toyota Avalon fighter. Irrational attachment to past successes and continuation of the same once great and now failed designs and ideas has put US auto industry in its current situation. Why not have a 4 door Camaro (don't say because it isn't just like you 1969 Camaro you had as a teen)? Let the Camaro provide a sporty affordable automobile, but now with 2 and 4 door styles.

Chevelle seems to be the way to go. It's right that Impala has become more like a family sedan "u know.. FWD".

One more thing they should keep da same interior its way better dan chevy's interior! ! ! !

Does anybody realize that the G8 was just a four door GTO? So if GM already basically made a sedan GTO what would it hurt to make a sedan Camaro. People are too protective of the name of the vehicle and won't move forward. I honestly dont care which name it gets. The G8 is a great vehicle and needs to be moves somewhere now that Pontiac will be dead shortly.

Does anybody realize that the G8 was just a four door GTO? So if GM already basically made a sedan GTO what would it hurt to make a Camaro sedan. People are too protective of the name of the vehicle and won't move forward. I honestly dont care which name it gets. The G8 is a great vehicle and needs to be moves somewhere now that Pontiac will be dead shortly.

BTW... for everyone who thinks Chevy should keep the Impala FWD, they have a really nice family sedan - the Malibu. I live in the Baltimore area so I know the value of an AWD or FWD vehicle, but GM has plenty to pick from, even with Pontiac gone.

As mcuh as id rather see a new chevelle with styling based off the old one, i think that would be the best name for it. dodge made the charger a four door sedan so why cant chevy do that with the chevelle?
and if the economy picks up soon then they can make a new el camino!!

Pontiac has been putting out crappy cars for a long time. The only think I will miss about them is the G8. So if the G8 can continue on in the US as a Chevy, I say do it! Maybe it should be named the Chevy Gait (G-eight, get it?).

Holden will want this to happen too!

As much as id rather see a new chevelle with styling based off the old one, i think that would be the best name for it. dodge made the charger a four door sedan so why cant chevy do that with the chevelle?
and if the economy picks up soon then they can make a new el camino!!

Another thing they could even keep it as an affordable Caddy or they should get rid of GMC they are just like da chevy's trucks and suv's with a different badge and keep PONTIAC!

Hmmm...now that people mention it I'm starting to lean towards a Reborn Chevelle. But my question to that is wouldn't a Chevelle end up competing head on with the Impala?

Since the Impala is long overdue for a redesign, I think it'd be more cost effective to stick with the Impala SS badge. That way they won't have to create two differnt cars in the Chevelle and Impala. Just random thoughts, nothing more.

Sounds good to me. The only thing I didn't like about pontiac going is that the G8 is out of production. Everything else pontiac had is pretty forgettable (including the Solstice...good intentions but it never worked)

Chevy definitely needs to rebadge the G8 somehow. I'm fine if its just the impala, everyone knows what SS means anyway

Chevelle

For anyone who's been paying attention, they sell this very car as a LUMINA in the M-E and the Omega(I think) in Brazil.

Not so much a rendering as probably a stock photo(the scoop may have been p-shopped).

But I reiterate, please do not dilute the cachet of my car by making it a N-A Chevy. This car doesn't really fit in with the North American Chevy image.

My $0.02; The G8 would make a nice replacement for the current Impala. There hasn't been a nice Impala SS since the middle 90's. What about Solstice --> Corvair?

WIth out a doubt it should. I agree with Matt, it should become the Impala, and Impala SS because creating a Camaro Sedan, is the same as making a Mustang Sedan, and that would just be strange.

But, there would be one major problem: importing. Impala's are built in mass, in the US to rental fleets, and business fleet vehicles. The current G8 is built in Australia, and I am sure it is a pain to ship it here in mass.

By the way, I want to clarify, my "NO" vote on this is just on the Camaro name. I really do think Chevy should get this as the next Impala and it should look exactly like the rendering here, because that is gorgeous and the G8 is a fine vehicle. I simply oppose using the Camaro name when so many other names with the proper heritage can fit so much better.

That's funny called Camaro SS sedan weird! I bet anybody would not buy funny name Camaro SS Sedan. The most people knows famous name Camaro 2 doors coupe perfect for fight like Mustang,and Challenger history long time . Maybe GM can call Impala SS, Belair SS, Nova SS or Malibu SS.

Yeah, I really don't care what you call it as long you keep some form of it in production. But improve on it's already decent looks, get a better stereo configuration and a new steering wheel. Maybe even freshen up the already great interior. Exciting comments to this post.

I hope someone from GM is reading this!

As an owner of a new Pontiac G8 GT for the past 26 days I am not happy about what GM did today. If the car is to come back as a Chevy do not call it a Camaro. Call it something else. The two door is already out and GM does not need a Hyundai Genesis situation with the name. If the car is reintroduced then introduce the HSV W427 as a SS model and I will happily trade in my G8 GT for it (of course at a lower price than it is going for).

http://www.hsv.com.au/w427/

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=146128

4-door Camaro?? just don't sound right. what is wrong with GM?? they should just make that the new Impala SS

They should try to keep the G8 in some form. The Impala is ugly and overprice and should be fazed out.
Maybe a 4 door Camaro is a good idea?

Definitely don't kill Zeta in the US. And Chevrolet should definitely get it. GM already has a large midsize car...Kill the fwd Impala, and redesign and rebadge this as the Impala. The Malibu is more sophisticated than the current Impala anyway, and re-doing the deer on Epsilon will further the redundancy that got GM in trouble in the first place. People WILL buy this on name recognition.

Caprice is a dumb idea. The Caprice, for most of its life, was a dowdy, mildly luxurious boat of a car, with absolutely no sporting character.

Camaro Sedan isn't too bad. But most folks wouldn't understand, as evidenced by the reaction here.

Chevelle is a bad idea. Chevelle was always downmarket from the Impala--it was the base model from which the uplevel midsize Malibu originated in the '60s.

Impala works for me. If you need to build a front-driver bigger than the Malibu, call that car a Lumina and reserve the Impala name for the G8.

or. . .

Build it here, or in Canada. Ditch the twin nostrils and the hood scoop. Upgrade the interior so it doesn't feel like an Aussie taxicab. Lastly, call it the Buick Wildcat.

The G8 should become the new Impala. If they could decontent it a bit for the non-SS, soften it up some, they'd have a beautiful RWD large car to sit above the Malibu. Then they could stank it up some and offer a righteous SS using the already-engineered bits from the current G8 GT or GXP.

Hoo yes, that would be a lineup of competitive cars - Corvette, G8 based Impala, Malibu, Orlando, Cruze, and the, um, Aveo. Oh Aveo, why do you always mess up my fanciful wanderings?

g8gtnorth

"Not so much a rendering as probably a stock photo(the scoop may have been p-shopped)."

this illustration is 100% unique and has noting to do with any other model in South America or Saudi Arabia

- the grille is custom fit and blended from the Chevy Volt concept
-the lower clip is custom fit and blended from Chevy Camaro RS
-the hood scoop is a rearranged air intake from the G8's twin 'fake' scoops.

Buick Grand National.

An open letter to GM:

For the love of heaven, you NEED to keep the G8 in your portfolio! It is simply too good a vehicle across multiple facets --- your best in a decade alongside the 2008/9 Cadillac CTS, 2010 Camaro, and Corvette Z06/ZR1 --- to simply abandon when the G8 is just now gaining traction in the marketplace and receiving universal acclaim.

As readers herein have already agreed, you need only transfer the G8 to another marque: Chevrolet or Buick. Pick one. For the case of Buick, you may employ the G8 as the perfect launchpad vehicle to attract a younger demographic into the Buick brand with a solid, much-loved vehicle, and metamorphose the brand from being "Blue hair Buick." The Buick G8 may resurrect the glory days of the Grand National.
For the case of Chevrolet for a G8, please do not consider tagging a Camaro name on it. Camaro is a standalone nameplate with its own pedigree and heritage. Start a new one with G8. And rename it: grab a thesaurus and flip through cool animal names at your discretion: Puma or something. The car will sell like hotcakes at IHOP. And you can build the model line from there with the Chevy G8: coupe, sport wagon, et al!

I am in the market for a new vehicle soon, and I prefer a G8 of some iteration to be around.

Of course the car should be kept, it's the best car GM has in that price/size range (the CTS being based on a much more expensive platform).

The problem is, the G8 is currently made in Australia. The Holden factory in Australia is tooled to make LHD G8's, but could not make enough 'Impalas', not that the UAW would ever allow it. Retooling whichever US factory the current Impala is made in to produce this car would cost money GM doesn't have, although I wonder if it couldn't share a line with its platform-mate the Camaro.

The production volumes from either of these scenarios would probably be suitable for a Buick Park Avenue (the Chinese-market one has a really nice interior, unlike the G8's merely decent one), a Caprice or Chevelle SS atop the Chevy lineup, but not as an Impala replacement. I am all for giving the current Impala the boot, as a prehistoric remnant of mediocre GM platforms, but this car won't be replacing it anytime soon. I believe all the US parties with an interest in the Buick Lucerne have for similar reasons opposed the sale of an imported Park Avenue here.

I don't post in forms for which I don't own the car being discussed or doing research on a potential purchase, but since this was front page news, what the heck.

The last thing GM, Chevy, or any US automaker needs is another gas gobbling V8 in their fleet. The idea is to sell lots and lots of cars to pay back all of the money they owe the government and you don't do that with a niche car that only a few will buy. Quality, reliability, fuel efficiency, appealing design, excellent ergonomics, and affordability should be GM's only concern now when making a new vehicle, in that order. GM has a huge image problem that is going to take them years, and years, and years to erase. You don't do that with a $30,000 plus, gas gobbling V8 sedan, regardless of what the mid-life crisis/stuck in the past "dudes" think.

From what I understand the only reason the Camero is in the market place is because manufacturing was practically done by the time the economic crisis hit. But you better believe a car like the Camero SS would not even be discussed in the board rooms of GM in today's world. You mid-life crisis types better buy your V8's while you can get them, because soon it will be hybrids, electric vehicles, extremely efficient 4 cylinders, and the occasional V6 which is all you'll get. It's about damn time too. Time to get off middle eastern oil dependence, like now.

This is SO typical of GM - they unabashedly interchange cars by merely switching their badges. Frankly, the G8 just looks much better - the Chevy badges especially in the rear mar the car's appearance a lot. Maybe they could continue to sell the G8 under Chevy but as a Pontiac.

Agree with most others here -- the G8 is a compelling vehicle that should remain in GM's lineup but NOT named as a Camaro sedan. There's room to argue the merits of Impala vs. Chevelle vs. other naming choices, but really the only big mistake GM could make is to stop selling it at all. The Malibu and the renamed G8 will make a strong mid-sized offering for Chevy.

Ad some mild-hybrid technology so it gets decent mileage in town, and rebadge it the Chevy "Banana". Or Buick Super Sport.

NO, the thought of making this a Camaro SS Sedan would be the same mistake Dodge did making the Charger a sedan. You can't take a classic car like the Camaro and make it into a sedan. However i do think GM should preserve this car. Killing off the current Impala and making this the new Impala would be a great idea. It's a better refined look compared to the one that's out right now. And it could definitely be a family car with an extra punch that GM can market.
The way it would work out in their line up is:
Chevy Malibu - Family Sedan
Chevy Impala (G8) - Family Sports Sedan
Chevy Camaro - American Muscle Sports Car

=)

pontiac G8 much?
why oh why,,,
camaro is a legend, not just a knock out from a partner company.
pls. make a camaro sedan from the ground up.

It would be a good idea to swap the Pontiac badge to a Chevy one.. BUT definitely not Camaro. GM went through a lot to convert this Australian beauty and to only have it in production for 2 years would be a shame!!

This looks MANY MANY times better than ANY sedan Chevy offers.. Impala.. NO.. Malibu.. NO

This is exactly the kind of crap that has gotten GM in the mess it's in. Too many nameplates and blurred product. Camaros should be two doors. You don't see four door Mustangs. I agree that the G8 is too good a car to kill, but don't call it a Camaro. What I suggest for GM and Chevy is a) keep the Camaro a coupe and get a convertible in the mix. b) discontinue the current Impala and leave the Malibu as the mid-sized choice. There'll be lots more demand after the G6 and Aura are gone. c) Convert the G8 into a the new Impala with the powertrain in tact. This would also make a much better Impala SS than the torque steer front driver they have now. Then round out the line with the HHR, new Cruze, and Aveo.

Any bets how long before the axe falls on Buick and GMC?

Here is my idea.

Make the Impala a more upscale chevy and really refine it. Make it almost an Toyota Avalon competitor. Also the Impala would need stronger v6 base engine. Maybe the 250hp v6 standard an the 3.6l DI engine an SS option.

Then make the G8 the Chevy Chevelle and keep the price range about the same. G8 brick for brick with chevy styling.

1. The camaro is a coupe and should stay that way
2. The chevelle was a coupe and it should stay
that way.
3. The Impala is a sports sedan.
4. The sports sedan should be replaced by the
sports sedan.

Chevy Nova SS.....maybe?

dgs4, you must have such a dull life. And people around you with interests and hobbies must not appreciate your judgmental attitude towards lightheartedness and fun. So sad.

Jifdin, this isn't from GM. It is internet speculation. GM wants to kill the G8. Why don't people read before commenting?

First and foremost, GM is on life support so hanging onto these inefficient, gas thirsty vehicles is what got it where it is today.

The mindset must change and so must GM. That said, if a car like the G8 is a viable player (which I believe it's not) it should be melded into the Buick line.

Now that Buick has redesigned the LaCrosse, the G8 would be prime candidate to replace the Lucerne. BTW, could also stand to lose all those terrible names and find some better more appealing ones while it makes itself over.

Lastly, I'm tired of hearing about any GM division being a competitor to BMW. That's just completely ludicrous. The old GM never had the desire or will to ever emulate anything better than a Kitchen Aid appliance.

For years their interpretations of modern design often resembled dated, 10 year old styling. Interior component design resembled Fisher-Price in terms of controls. And the cheapness of materials would be laughable if it weren't so sad for how many ppl were forced to endure the punishing inferiority of what GM products have come to stand for.

It's a great platform and a great looking illustration. Since the Impala name is taken, how about dusting off Bel Aire Super Sport?

I own a 09 G8 GXP and simply love it! I had sworn off domestic stuff after I had nothing but hell (and fun) with a 95 Z28, complete lemon. But when the GXP came out...my heart went racing. I traded in a perfect condition Altima just to own this, just because...

I love the GXPs styling but I would have preferred the Holden HSV version more. That said, I would happily drop both for a bow tie on the front grill! I love those pics above.

You can call it whatever you want but Camaro? That deserves a swift kick in the A$$!

Give it to Buick.......It's time for a new Grand National

Ten years ago I would have said Caprice ET (for European Touring or, if you prefer, Elapsed Time). But that now refers to the Zeta long wheelbase WM platform sold in other parts of the world and is no longer appropriate. Camaro is a non-starter. GM have too many sales with the FWD Impala to give up that model and it will apparently be produced until 2012 or so. Chevelle was a 112" wheelbase car - smaller than the current Pontiac G8 which is 114.8". So I would opt for either Biscayne or Bel Air to build on some brand equity from the past, and the G8 GXP can become the Biscayne SS.

I actually don't care if they call it The Whangdoodle - the important thing is to build the thing and keep selling it here.

Bring the wagon version here and call it the Nomad!!!

Camaro Sedan = NO!!!!

Impala = Yes

Caprice = YES!!!

Buick = NO!!!

Dear General,

Replace that hideous monstrosity called Impala with this...badge it SS for the 425bhp topline, LT for the V6 mid level and LS for the entry level rental fleet trim. Follow Camaro's lead and offer a competitive suspension set up with 18" wheels/tires in the lowest LS trim and move up from there to 19" on the LT and 20" on the SS...give us what we all really want, not what some old fart engineer who died 20 years ago but forgot to bury himself thinks we want...and bury those old farts for good, maybe you have a chance to survive. It's all about the product...world class products America is more than capable of making but has forgotten how to.

The underpinnings on this platform are solid and properly executed, would run rings around the competition, domestic or foreign. It's a matter of believing "yes we can".

Good luck General!

With Pontiac gone, I see no reason why the G8 shouldn't become the Impala/Impala SS. The thing blows as of now and its due for a RWD refresh.

Hip7, where have you been for the last 20 years?

Hip7, where have you been for the last 20 years? What's with all the seeming Prius fanboys who have clearly never even sat in a modern GM vehicle and have never smiled in their lives showing up here?

No, no, no. It's either got to be an Impala or a Caprice. I say Caprice.

No, no, no. It's either got to be an Impala or a Caprice. I say Caprice.

I just moved to Australia from Canada, and all I see is G8`s (Commodores) Beautiful car. In terms of rebadging, I know in South Africa, the G8 goes by the Chevrolet Lumina. Big difference from the old Lumina. Maybe that could be another way for them to rebadge it, as a Lumina.

Chevelle SS! and redesign body and body kit, juz do a minor change. :D

A good car is a good car regardless of what they call it, but a Camaro sedan? Seriously? Why don't we just make a Camaro crossover wagon while we're at it? Maybe GM could revive Geo and call it a Storm! Look, when I heard Pontiac got the axe, the first thing I thought was, "they have to save the G8, that's all we have left...it's no brainer they will ditch the current impala considering the new Malibu seem to fill the FWD family car niche,and bring back a RWD Impala SS all I have to do is wait"---I said it was a "no brainer" , hell,fate almost made the decision for them but, of course, GM could consider doing something completely senseless like a Camaro sedan. They would probably keep the current impala and malibu too and wonder why their dealerships are choking on sedan overstock...(I like the images though)

Not Camaro!!! Chevelle, or a replacement for the Impala. Make a touring (wagon) version and call it the Nomad! :)

This is what the Impala SS should've been. As fas as the Chevelle is concerned, if they bring back that nameplate they need to have a hi-po coupe also.

The pictured car is the best looking Chevy sedan I've seen and want one with the Camaro's direct injection 6 cylinder engine & 6 sp. auto.

A four door Camaro would really seem to dilute the Camaro name. To me it makes more sense to create a REAL Impalla SS again. Why cant the standard impalas be the current FWD platform, and actually carry re-badged G8 as a separate Impala SS model, with real performance cred.

After reading some more, I think the grand-national might be a good idea also, but even that was a two-door. But, it would be pretty damn awesome!

Camaro? Not quite, but you should turn the G8 line into the Impala line as GM/Chevy were planning to do so anyway a few years back.

Imagine that, rear-wheel drive Imapalas, with V6s and V8s... sounds kinda logical, no? Kill-off the current Impala. I've driven all variations of it. It's outdated, under-powered, handles poorly, the SS has horrid torque steer, and it looks boring! Don't the police of our nation deserve a better RWD cruiser than what the Charger can offer?

4-door Camaro? There's never been one, and hopefully never will be. Caprice or Impala would work... But wait. What about the RWD Chevy model from the distant past, available in 2-door or 4-door configurations, with an available "ute" model known as the El Camino? Sweet.

Ahem. Casting one vote for the Chevelle name, and one HELL NO vote for a Camaro 4-door.

Make G8 the new - and appropriately titled - Impala S/S.

Sweeet...A poor mans porsche panamera

It should not be the Camaro sedan but a replacement of the impala.
I was thinking of getting one but i have to get out of my current car first. Now i hope that they rebagde it as another car but not camaro. i think the chevelle sounds good

Chevy should not only take ownership of this car but they should also badge it as a Camaro 4 door. I know this inflames a lot of the Camaro loyals however every other brand name doesn't have the sellability that the camaro nameplate has. Right now GM needs sales and a camaro 4 door would sell much better than a malabu. Also its not like the g8 is a bad car, in fact its an excellent car and lives up to the camaro nameplate.

Who is the moron that wrote this article. Do some research and come up with a legit comparo car.

How historically inept can you be to suggest that the g8 could become a camaro. Many, many, many other namesakes that could be revived or renewed with the G8.

NOT camaro. This site just lost a LOT of credibility.

or a buick park avenue...
http://www.buick.com.cn/parkavenue/index.aspx

IMPALA SS!!! And dump that hulking piece of crap they currently call an Impala! What's the fuel mileage differences?

2009 Impala SS - 16/24
2009 G8 GXP - 14/20
2009 G8 GT - 17/24

I don't know about calling it a Camaro sedan, but it should be moved over to Chevy (it should have been there in the first place). The front end of the Caprice SS in the middle east is super boring, but at least it's already done. I like the front end of this graphic better. This car needs to live on. Also, the G8 V6 is supposed to get the DI 3.6 V6 for 2010 anyway, so the Camaro similarities would be closer.

Definitely a good idea to transfer the G8 to another division, but with Chevy having the Corvette and Camaro, I think it would best serve the corporation by strengthening the Buick lineup. How about a new Wildcat? The G8 sedan with some styling tweaks would be a nice replacement for the Lucerne which uncomfortably has too much overlap with the new Lacrosse. Throw Buick a version of the Chevy Volt and dust off the Electra badge for it. Buick would be close to being a full line car brand again.

Yes and no. The G8 should move over to the bowtie division, but as a replacement to the Impala. The Malibu is everything and much, more than the current FWD Impala. It can carry on in Impala's current market with very few changes.

So ditch the current Impala and make give it the G8 chassis and body. You can have the bread and butter Impala with V6 engines and a firebreathing V8 Impala SS for the Camaro owner who needs 4 doors.

On the same vein, I would also bring over the similar Holden Statesman as a RWD Buick Roadmaster replacement (Electra, Park Avenue?) They already have a very nicely done, Holden-based, Park Avenue in China. Why should China be the only ones getting RWD luxury Buicks?

The G8 should definitely be transitioned to Chevrolet, as should the Solstice, but since we're talking about the G8, I will limit them to this topic. I think it would be a mistake to make the G8 a Camaro sedan. The G8 is big enough to fill in as a replacement for an ever-present but less popular car in Chevy's lineup...the Impala. The fact is that the malibu is so good right now that it competes with the Impala on size and scale and is cannibalizing the Impala's sales. Now what needs to be done is make the G8 the new Impala to differentiate the two cars. The G8 could be the RWD V8 car that the Impala should have always been and still give buyers the option of a great but more fuel efficient FWD car in the Malibu. That's my opnion.

Yes and no. The G8 should move over to the bowtie division, but as a replacement to the Impala. The Malibu is everything and much, more than the current FWD Impala. It can carry on in Impala's current market with very few changes.

So ditch the current Impala and make give it the G8 chassis and body. You can have the bread and butter Impala with V6 engines and a firebreathing V8 Impala SS for the Camaro owner who needs 4 doors.

On the same vein, I would also bring over the similar Holden Statesman as a RWD Buick Roadmaster replacement (Electra, Park Avenue?) They already have a very nicely done, Holden-based, Park Avenue in China. Why should China be the only ones getting RWD luxury Buicks?

The G8 GXP needs to be the new Impala SS and it needs to be built in the states. Continue the GT and the Base V6 and throw in a turbo four for good measure.

Offer exterior colors in gold and white pearl. Make the Holden Super Sports and GTS wheels as options. Upgrade every engine to direct injection.

Market the practicality of a four door sports sedan, do not marshmellow the suspension, and if and when the Litium Ion batteries become available show off a performance electric version.

While they're at it, bring in the proposed Pontiac Ute and viola', the new El Camino!

The carmaro already died once. To me that gives GM the opportunity to re-establish the camaro brand more broadly with two and four door versions. The key to success will be ensuring that the 4 door keeps the sports car spirit of the two door camaro.

Enough with the Impala, already. That name should continue to grace the decks of Chevys that compete in the established market of front-drive barges like the Taurus/Maxima/Avalons of the world. This rear-driver is too small for an Impala badge, and it has real performance cred that would be lost on all the 30-somethings who associate Impala with "boomer retirement car".

It needs to be a Chevelle, with a SS badge for the G8 GXP equivalent. My $0.02.

Save the G8, YES, and sure, - slap the Chevy bow tie on it!
- But no need to make it a Camaro sedan, or Impala replacement, gee whiz! -just give it a nameplate of it's own! Create a new name, or hell - call it the damn Chevrolet G8!!! - a no-brainer!

But definitely keep it in the US market!

YES...THE CAR SHOULD BE BUILT.....BUT, CALL IT THE "BEL AIR" OR "BISCAYNE" TO REALLY GO RETRO IN THE NAME !

HERE'S ANOTHER....PUT THE SOLSTICE IN THE CHEVROLET STABLE, JUST CALL IT "STING RAY" AND TWEAK THE DESIGN CUES A LA CORVETTE, BUT PRICE IT SO AN EVERYMAN CAN AFFORD IT...

AND THEN FINALLY, BRING THE DAMNED EL CAMINO BACK.......

Ugh - that's just silly... why not just call it the Chevy Impala.

They are already having a tough time differentiating the Impala from the Malibu - FWD vs RWD would do it.

It would bring Chevy back to it's heritage with the Impala name.

The only problem is that the Aussie sedan is expensive to make and hurts their CAFE #s

This car has no resemblance to the camaro that is coming out so its illogical and overall a lame reason to rename this car a camaro just because it happens to be a sporty looking car that performs well and GM just happened to throw a muscular engine in.

Take the current impala and trash it when its done with its seven years on the market. There is no reason to have the impala and malibu offered simultaneously...they are similar in size and capability. Looking online, they both are larger cars with similar options and price ranges. The current impala is a lame boat of a car.

GM should make the Malibu the mainstream car they offer much like a camry. The impala name should be offered with more prestige. A version of the impala can be had with a choice of a V6, V6+hybrid or High performance engine with the designation of 'SS'

In short, rename the car an Impala SS. Improve the Impala name and offer it at a premium to the Malibu. DO NOT call it a camaro sedan.

BTW, GM should have:
Close GMC (so similar to Chevy products anyway)
Close Saturn (vs. Pontiac, Saturn is less appealing)

A 4 door Camaro? That would completely ruin the Camaro name, and what the Camaro name stood for! Whats next? A 4 door Corvette? If they do re-badge, it should be an all new car with an all new name. 4 door Camaro? I almost fell out of my chair in total disbelief!

"Don't the police of our nation deserve a better RWD cruiser than what the Charger can offer?"

Yes! Wait...that will increase their chances of catching me!

"Enough with the Impala, already. That name should continue to grace the decks of Chevys that compete in the established market of front-drive barges like the Taurus/Maxima/Avalons of the world."

Why would you want to compete with those FWD barges? No one buys them, and Maximas aside, they dilute your brand's value.

If I could forward my two cent to GM to say they should keep the G8 and revive it as the Impala/Impala SS. And if you do this, is the G8 Ute back on the table as an ElCamino? Next, keep the Vibe and revive it as a Chevy Rant (get it Vibe Rant) or Chevy Rave and dump the HHR & Aveo, and keep the Solstice (roadster/coupe) and revive them as Chevy Monza/Monza GT. And for the Monza/Monza GT engine line-up (base) 2.0, scrap the 2.4 turbo and drop in the 3.6 (Hyundai Genesis coupe, Nissan 370Z fighter). My only other sympathy goes out for the Saturn Sky, revive it to upscale Buick Wildcat or Cadillac (?) and trash the XLR. THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE CORVETTE!

Chevy Caprice SS. It would make a great looking police cruiser.

Chevy Caprice SS. It would make a great looking police cruiser.

Either Caprice SS or, more desirably, kill the W-body Impala and make it the new Impala (V6) and Impala SS (V8).

DO NOT DILUTE THE CAMARO NAME WITH A SEDAN!!!!

SHAME ON STRAIGHTLINE FOR EVEN CONSIDERING IT!!!

I'm getting a feeling that the people who are getting so furious over a name getting transferred over to a four door car that could very well save a brand are the same inept people that have brought down Detroit. Open up your minds and think outside the box because that old world muscle car thinking is what has brought down the American car market in the first place. Now is the time to think out side the box and save the American car industry by thinking what sells and not what "thats what we've always done in the past". Its time for Detroit to go bankrupt, reorganize, cut off the benefits for its employees, become competitive in the global market, and start building good cars people want under an attractive name, like a 4 door Camaro.

Call it whatever...who cares? So as long as the car's got the cojones, people will buy it. Worry about the content, not the name...if a Chevy Chevette...remember this name? had the performance of an M3, it would be the best selling car in the world and people wudn't give a shit what it was called... Do you all really care what Miss USA's name is???? She is hot and that's good enough for me. I don't know about all you misdirected losers but her name doesn't give me the woody...her well endowed assets is what does.

Maybe that's why GM is so lost and ruderless... worrying about and getting caught up with all the nonsense bullshit instead of focusing on building cars that turn on people's desire...trying to make sense of people like you is probably the very reason why GM is in skid row today.

The only American car I owned was a '79 Camaro when I was in college and since then I have been fortunate to have owned the best Porsche, Ferrari and MB-AMG had to offer but deep inside, I am rooting for GM... Yes you can GM.

Make it an Impala ss or a caprice. A camaro 4 door isn't right. Maybe a Bel Air but not a 4 door Camaro.

If this were a chevy, perhaps it could see alittle fleet duty as police intercepter. The 304 hp motor is the perfect cross between power and economy. Not mention with the 6 speed trans from the ss camaro it would be durable.

Can anyone say "Online Petition to GM?" Don't kill the U.S.'s and GM's first ditch effort at making a 4 door Corvette? There are plenty of names in Chevy's past that this car could adopt. Chevelle SS has a nice ring to it. Camaro I do not agree with. Impala SS also would work. You do not have to kill the front driver. Just make this one the performance version.

To all in America as the owner of a Holden HSV Clubsport in Australia and a long time car enthusiast i am proud as an Aussie to see you guys fight for a great vehicle built here. You should continue your fight with an official petiton to GM as finally after all these years there is a realisation of the great cars we build here and as much as i am a Holden guy Ford here build some very good vechiles with both V8 and amazing turbo six cylinder Falcons.
I have a real suggestion for all the debate over what a revived G8 should be called in the States and it is really simple how about you simply adopt the model name Holden have made an icon... Commodore!!, there is then no conflict with any heritage model names you have there. We have for years remained a V8 Country with Holden sticking to their guns through a number of fuel crisis, what you see now is the result of this we want you to keep purchasing Holden product as it has major benefits to us economically sp please keep lobbying because to lose Holden would be a tragedy to the GM world as a major innovator of rear wheel drive platforms which will always have a palce in the world, as can be evidenced by the fact that a version of the Commodore is exported to every continent in the worls except Antartica. Anyway as new member I would welcome any feedback.

I posted a comment yesterday that didn't show up... let's see if this one makes it!

I think hsvclubsport has a very good idea about the name Commodore. The only problem is, I believe that name was used by AMC for one of their cars here in the US. As I recall, that car wasn't too great. Might not be a good name to use one something as good as the Holden Commodore.

Thanks redgeminpa for your support if the Commodore model name has ever been used in the US it is obviously a long forgotten one lets all petion now for GM to keep the car in the US under the Commodore model name. If Holden had the balls it would go so far as marketing and creating a dealership network in the US as Holden and to hell with GM but we know that wont happen, so the best thing we can hope for is a re badge of the product via a GM label up to you loyalist followers to assist, but lets not go on emotion how about everyone spreading the word and through word of mouth snap every G8 left, then we have a case to have the car intergrated into the GM line up.

i say why keep the g8 at all, they already have the cadillac cts-v! if that is not a sports sedan, the i don't kno what is. if GM wants to cut back on their number of nameplates, just make a striped down cts-v and make it affordable!

The G8 should continue to be produced as an Impala and Impala SS therefore, a good car intergrated into the chevy lineup along with the improved Malibu and Traverse

I don't think it should become a Camaro sedan, that would be totally wrong. However, I agree that G8 should continue as the new Impala... how old is the current Impala now, going on 10 years? It's about goddamn time that Chevy replaces it. From price and size standpoint, the G8 continues where the Malibu leaves off, and can effectively compete with the next Taurus and current Charger. As long as they fix certain quirks in the interior like the crank seat adjuster, the G8 as Impala will become a formidable competitor.

Everybody visit this site to sign the "Save Pontiac" Petition! Give your comments to save this awesome car as a Chevy or whatever you feel it should be. Let the Car buying Public and Car enthusiasts speak! Let it be heard that we want cars that stir the soul and that cars like this shouldn't completely die! Let GM here us!

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/4/save-pontiac-gms-true-performance-division

I have two suggestions: CHEVY SS or Just SS.

This thread is very similar to what GM got on its freshly opened fast lane blog. No matter what the Fastlane topic was, there was an avalanche of comments begging GM to build Camaro or G8 or other RWD cars.

GM could simply drop the ancient Chevy Impala and replace it with a rebadged G8 sedan.
That gives the RWD folks two models:
the RWD G8>Impala SS as sedan, and the Camaro as the RWD coupe.

Finally, rebadge the Sky/Solaris as a Chevy (and continue performance parts for it !!!) and you now have RWD galore at GM.

1. GM, KEEP THIS CAR!
2. DON'T call it a Camaro
3. Make a 6-speed manual available in the base V8 and make it look more like an American muscle car and less like a BMW.
4. Get rid of that L99 truck engine.
5. Don't raise the price.

Thanks.

HOW ABOUT "MONZA"? since Biscayne and Bel Air were not even considered....MONZA SS, that is.

Gm should keep the G8 as an additionl vehicle for Chevrolet.What is wrong with two Impalas?

Camaro is not meant to be a sedan. NOOO Way!!

I like the Impala SS RWD version idea much better.

Caprice as a Charger competitor and a FWD/AWD Impala that will blow the doors off a Tarus SHO but will also compete with the Avalon.

Nuhh that's not an SS... This is the G8 in SS trim... http://www.hsv.com.au/cars/Eseries/gts/gts.asp

Don't care what it's called - just build it!

I don't care what you call it, just make it GM! Call it the Malibu SS or Impala SS or Bel Air SS. Just build it! I love this car!

OKay, do NOT call it the Malibu SS, that would make it suck, and calling it the Camaro SS sedan would just not be right. Could call it the Lumina like they do in Australia, that would be fine.

Impala SS makes the most sense to me. The 3.6 V6 version of the G8 would be fine for the rest of the Impala line on this platform.

As others have said, with the Malibu covering the FWD market, a RWD Impala makes perfect sense to differentiate the two models. And the G8 is bigger, so there would be even less overlap between the Malibu and Impala. Plus the current Impala is due for a replacement anyway. I would think this would be a pretty cheap conversion over developing an entirely new model.

The G8 is an excellent car and doesn't deserve to die, as has been the case in the past with so many GM cars. It might have been more successful as an Impala to begin with, considering Pontiac's sorry shape of late.

If GM has already brought the manufacturing ability for this platform to the U.S./Canada to build the Camaro, there's no reason why they can't build a profitable Impala SS here.

Keep the car, call it an Impala SS and for crying out loud, give it the triple taillights that were the Impala's styling signature during its heyday (along with the beautiful leaping impala emblem).

How about Buick Invicta/Invicta GS/Invicta Super? Or maybe Park Avenue? This platform is used in China for the Park Avenue and looks great!

http://www.buick.com.cn/parkavenue/index.aspx

Minimal changes would keep a great car (The Commodore) here for a while, and would maybe appeal to more youthful Buick owners as the normal senior Buick fans are dwindling...

DC

If GM decided to market the Pontiac G8 as a Chevy Camaro sedan, it would be a truly bad idea if history is a guide, e.g. Pontiac Grand Prix Sedan, etc. What happens is that the new marketing idea devalues an already proven model identity. The G8 SHOULD NOT BE discontinued, however, but it should be marketed as its own vehicular identity. That is why the Asian brands do well when they introduce new models because the marketing efforts are well thought out and keenly focused. The benefit of focused marketing is that the other markets not targeted tend to be drawn into the product because of curiosity of why the product was not targeted to the segment. Notwithstanding, other than the G8, what is GM going to do with the Pontiac Solstice, or the Saturn Aura, Sky? Very good vehicles to consider re-badging as well. Marketing is key.

definitely not. They should just make it the new impala, this isnt that hard. If they make a four-door camaro then ford might as well make a F-150 into a sub-compact

As a proud owner of G8 GT, I would say they are crazy if they do not figure out a way to keep this car in the line up. Quiet, smooth, quick and the only feature its lacking is Nav. Which I don't miss at all. If I did I can use my cell, or onstar. Back to the topic at hand, I don't know if a Camaro sedan is a good idea.

I think a Chevy G8 is the good 2nd choice - the Buick Wildcat and Wildcat GT would keep the car in the stores where they know them and give Buick a performance car to sell and draw folks into buy 2010 Le Crosses and GMC Acadias.

BTW, I work in the BPG retail end - take my opinion for what its worth

After reading other comments, If the G8 were to become a Chevy... Bring back the Chevelle name plate and El Camino for the G8 truck. Let the Camaro stand as it always has been a 2 door sports coupe. The Chevelle was a 2, a 4 door, a wagon, and the base for the El Camino. Seems like a better match.