This is interesting: Mercedes-Benz is asking for a tax break, similar to what's available for hybrid buyers, but applied to new diesel vehicles. If this were to occurâand I hope it happensâit would take some of the sting out of the high cost of diesel fuel as well as the increased purchase cost of a diesel engine option.
The good news here is that the Environmental Protection Agency is considering Mercedesâ claim that the new 50-state-legal, diesel-engine Benzes should be in the same category as hybrids that qualify for the federal Alternative Motor Vehicle Credit. So diesel fans, keep your fingers crossed...
estreka says:
05:15 AM, 06/25/08
I'm not so sure I want to subsidize diesel. After all, I'm not helping truckers buy their semis.
brn says:
05:18 AM, 06/25/08
estreka, you are helping them buy their semis, through purchasing products they deliver.
flicmod says:
07:25 AM, 06/25/08
This will never happen. The government doesn't want to subsidize diesel. There's no interest in creating demand for more efficient fuels from the oil companies... and if there's no interest from the oil companies, there's no interest from the government.
Hence, abnormally high diesel prices today.
ewilfong says:
08:05 AM, 06/25/08
Flicmod, my more cynical side wants to agree. But then again, the government does subsidize hybrids, meaning your logic is on shaky ground.
flicmod says:
08:12 AM, 06/25/08
But hybrids still require petrol, not diesel. Therefore it contributes to the demand of petrol.
Now, if there was a practical way of making hybrid-diesel engines... well I would say the government would have nothing to do with that.
albook says:
08:27 AM, 06/25/08
Does anyone else see a little Honda CR-V in that grille?
billt9 says:
02:30 PM, 06/25/08
Does look CR-V ish.
Diesel should be subsidized if it offers reduced exhaust pollution when compared to regular gasoline vehicles.
Judging from the new Jetta diesel, diesels will be polluting less than gasoline, but more than hybrids. So diesels should be subsidized some, but not as much as hybrids.
billt9 says:
02:34 PM, 06/25/08
As for existing diesels on the road, oh my god have you see the huge puff of black cloud that comes out the back of a diesel Jetta's tailpipe every time they accelerate? I don't want one of those in my neighborhood.
Edmunds, have a buddy car drive with your diesel Jetta, and observe the black cloud when the Jetta accelerates. Take a picture of it.
210delray says:
07:22 PM, 06/25/08
Why should people who can afford a Mercedes diesel get a tax break?
bbechtel16 says:
07:47 PM, 06/25/08
Why should people who can afford a new vehicle get a tax break?
billt9 says:
10:35 PM, 06/25/08
That's right!
The government should put a 20% tax on such a vehicle.
These things are the property of rich hollywood superstars who want something to represent their token gesture of environmental responsibility, while they burn 10,000% as much fuel on private jets.
They can easily pay the extra tax. The tax money can then be used to subsidize important things, such as putting senator McCain in office so he can pour money into Toyota and GM and let them build better batteries which pollute the lands surrounding Canadian nickel mines instead of pristine American soil. Keep America beautiful!
smokeonit says:
04:54 PM, 06/26/08
if it has a high mpg rating comparable to other cars that gets exemptions, then it should be done! but only if emissions are low!!! i think the bluetec emissions are very low...
as for non bluetec high mpg diesel cars, those should not get any tax break! not here or anywhere else!!!
cars and trucks have to be as clean as possible... we all breathe the air...
smokeonit says:
04:57 PM, 06/26/08
and no matter what they do to SUVs, unless it's a zero emissons system no car company will get a good mpg rating for SUVs, not hybrid, not gasoline and not diesel...! weight is the enemy of good mpg... and SUV always weigh a lot... i think everyone needs to understand that...
that's why people should not drive around with the back seats and trunks full of stuff that doesn't belong in the car/SUV in the first place... every pound less counts...!!!
smokeonit says:
04:59 PM, 06/26/08
"Why should people who can afford a new vehicle get a tax break?"
because new vehicles pollute much less than the car that is being traded in... cars that were built 10 years ago emit like 50-100% more pollutants...!!! that's why there have to be incentives to get people to get rid of their old cars...
billt9 says:
06:04 PM, 06/26/08
Cars from 20 years ago put out somewhere around 7 times as much pollutants.
That would be 600% more pollution, not merely 50%.
firstwagon says:
03:40 PM, 06/28/08
"As for existing diesels on the road, oh my god have you see the huge puff of black cloud that comes out the back of a diesel Jetta's tailpipe every time they accelerate? I don't want one of those in my neighborhood. "
When's the last time you saw a diesel?
I can't remember the last time I saw a TDI puff any black smoke. Diesels have come a long way from the old rabbits.
We have them everywhere in Canada. Last time I heard, around 50% of all VW's were TDI's. 80% of the Jetta wagons.
And no smoke.
ateixeira says:
12:16 PM, 06/30/08
If this passes then I want credits for my PZEV Subaru Forester, too.
If clean emissions earn the credit, why show a preference for one technology over another? Just look straight at the results.
Bluetec doesn't meet PZEV standards.