2008 New York Auto Show: Another First for Cadillac

Ugh...

Fair enough. Perhaps what Ed should have said was now that Cadillac is a solid player again (at least in the under-80 crowd), having a new innovation actually means something.

Chavis,
 
Congratulations on compiling a laundry list of insignificant, evolutionary changes. One could do this for any car company. I could make a similar list for Yugo. Great job.
 
My favorite:
"first production car with a performance shift algorithm".... To think, corvettes and porches had been made with standard shift algorithms until Cadillac showed them how it's done.

Those headlights do look pretty cool. How do they look when lit?

Chavis; In your impromptu, rushed research to prove Ed wrong, you made some important exclusions, like OnStar and, of course, Tail fins! (how did you miss that?)
 
Also, some corrections to your statements:
-The Allante was introduced in 1990
-MRC was introduced in 2002, not 2003. Of course, MRC is just another method of semi-active damping control, other methods of active damping have been around for decades prior.
 
I still can't believe you left out Tailfins! Harley Earl would be disappointed...

^^ haha I love it.

Thanks to bepperb and tryan for making statements that I didn't want to be bothered to make.
 
Stop trolling and go back to Karl's blog, chavis.

I love high tech lighting!

American design is so functional, so little stylized art.
This is but a stack of fully functional LED lights.
With minimal styling element.
 
Walk up near, and look closely at a German or Japanese light cluster. See how much little intricate art goes into shaping it.
The little things do not exist on American designed light clusters.

I am so glad this is finally happening. LED technology has been around for decades and automotive applications have been noticably vacant. LEDs are so much more efficient than bulbs.

..and long-lived.. Since the trend (for all automakers now) is for more complicated assemblies in the front end, to aid aerodynamics, not to mention the 'finished' tight-seamed look, changing out bulbs is no longer a 5 minute job on most recently introduced vehicles.

>>>ow about the first production car with Magnetic Ride Control ('03 STS) or Night Vision (DeVille)? How about the first production car with a performance shift algorithm ('98 STS)? How about the first car with lateral side slip control(when all four tires loose traction)and active steering feedback ('02 STS with CVRSS 2.0)? How about the first car with full LED tail lamps (2000 DeVille). How about the first FWD car with traction control ('93 Allante).
 
You forgot the first car with a V8-6-4 (1980 Seville).

tryan- I knew when the Allante was introduced in '90, that was a typo. MRC was a late introduction on during the '02 model year on cars made after January '03 which is why I listed the '03 model year. At the start of the 2002 model year, it featured CVRSS 2.0. Regardless, Delphi's system is much superior than any reactive shock system in the world. It's reaction rate is many times faster than systems such as CATS, AirmaticDC, or any of the other competitive systems that continuously vary damper rates. Audi and Ferrari have also begun using this system in later model years. I am not sure when OnStar was introduced so that is why I didn't list it. For the record, I don't do any research, I just have a pretty good memory. PS- I've never even seen a Cadillac with tail fins, before my time.
  
bepperb- instead of failed attempts at cleverness, try to add constructive comments to the topic. My biggest critics always seem to be the ones with no facts to present (see below). I am not talking about manumatic shifting, I'm talking about reactive transmission algorithms that automatically activate in Drive mode when aggressive driving is detected. PAS was patented by a engineering intern for the code he wrote for GM one summer and introduced in the '98 STS- it was the first of it's kind. For icing on your smartass cake- the Corvette's automatic (along with the XLR) now feature this technology so perhaps your "To think, corvettes and porches had been made with standard shift algorithms until Cadillac showed them how it's done" comment is indeed accurate. It was the template for other such systems that did not exist prior to its introduction- but I guess that's just a "laundry list of insignificant, evolutionary changes." Interesting how these same insignificant useless advancements are now used on other cars from around the world, hmmm...
  
Try again buddy.
  
I remember this member named merc1 who used to say the same thing back in the Edmunds townhall days (late '90s). At least he had a little bit of knowledge to back up his opinions.
 
flicmod- I don't know where you're from but "Ugh" is not considered valuable feedback. Please try and provide some if indeed that's within your capabilities.

"I knew when the Allante was introduced in '90, that was a typo"
 
I don't know what your keyboard looks like, but '3' is a long way from '0'...
 
"PS- I've never even seen a Cadillac with tail fins, before my time. "
 
I'm a little confused by this statement, maybe it's me, but it just doesn't read right. Either way, everybody knows Cadillacs and tailfins go together like "peas and carrots"..=)

chavis,
 
Rightie-oh, 1487!

tryan- ok Mr Typing school. Your rebuttal must be weak if you have nothing else but typo lessons to offer. What's confusing? I've never seen a tail fin equipped Cadillac. Maybe they frequent your area but they sure don't in mine. I still don't see the signifance of your point.
 
flicmod- you know what? never mind, there's nothing to even address. I guess it's hard to come up with responses when the tank is empty.

Chavis - No need to get defensive, relax a little, you'll live longer.
 
The confusing part of your statement was the "...before my time." part. So you've never seen a Caddy with tailfins before your time? I would hope not, it's kind of a paradox...
 
You don't see the styling significance of tailfins? You are kidding, right?
 
You're right, you are running on empty. I hope you realize that people are jumping on you because you were so quick to jump down Ed's throat (rather rudely, might I add).

Thank you tryan. Chavis doesn't seem to be very observant, does he?
 
As tryan said, we're jumping on you because you jumped on Ed. For no reason, I might add. Even IF Cadillac developed cutting edge technology since the '90's to the present, it's still almost 50 years since the tail fins came out. Ed's statement still stands.
 
Tone it down a bit, man. You don't always have to be so hostile in your posts.

Look here's the point: as a journalist, your job is to present the facts and give your opinion. How are we supposed to respect their opinions if they can't even get the facts straight? Too much emphasis is placed on being funny as opposed to delivering the goods.
 
Secondly, I doubt these guys need you to stick up for them. They aren't worried about my little corrections and I don't think they take it personally.
 
Finally at a risk of sounding childish, you started.

"you started."
 
LOL!

"Finally at a risk of sounding childish, you started."
 
Risk taken, consequence realized...congratulations.
 
P.S., I do believe post #1 belongs to you....so, who started? =)

"chavis,
  
Rightie-oh, 1487!"
 
This guy is so clever!
 
If ignorance truly is bliss you must be one happy individual. I really thought you had retired from this site. Oh well. I see you haven't picked up much in the way of facts during your absence.
 
I would love for someone to explain to me how someone gets criticized for presenting accurate information and the person who have false info is rabidly defended by the peanut gallery. Chavis is the bad guy for setting the record straight? Makes no sense.