Toyota may recall 5.7L Tundra

Good point. But if Toyota steps up and catches this early, even if in the end it would amount to just a small batch of motors, they will have lived up to the very thing that got them to the top in the first place, customer satisfaction.
 
Recalls happen to everyone, I highly doubt Toyota will let this one get away from them.
 
In the end, it just sounds like a supplier issue. Toyota isn't responsible for the material that comes from the suppliers' vendors' founderys.
 
What an amazing monster of an engine btw. I had the chance to sample one about a month ago and was blown away by the power and inherent smoothness.

You guys are off base on the bias of the Detroit News. They are very unbiased and are frankly one of the best (if not the best) source of auto news on the planet.

"In the end, it just sounds like a supplier issue. Toyota isn't responsible for the material that comes from the suppliers' vendors' founderys. "
 
Of course they are. Toyota picked the supplier.

I highly doubt a recall will kill the Tundra.
 
anythingbutGM - Actually, Toyota is responsible for the products they buy from suppliers. We as auto gurus may understand it's a supplier issue, but the average consumer just sees Toyota. It's the same scenario with Ford and Navi.

I was tired of hearing glories of Toyota .. this is good news.

How could it not be Toyota's fault? If it were any other make, people would be lighting torches and busting down gates.
 
So I guess if Toyota makes deals with suppliers to make cheaper and cheaper parts that then start to break, it's not their fault. Yeah, that's as logical as Vulcan would want.

Detroit News is not biased.
Detroit News car reviews used to continually bash big 3 vehicles, and praise the imports.
Although it's changed somewhat since they got new reviewers and got rid of the Lienerts.
but most of the news is just straight up facts. There's good and bad stuff about most companies.
Detroit News is reliable.
 
Although Detroit News's new car review guy will write up the cars with facts, he does throw in commentaries that promote the big 3.
Still, he doesn't make any false statements, or present false information. He just chooses to highlight the faults of imports and praise the advantages of big 3 vehicles.
 
You go Karl Brauer! They thru in a random quote just for the heck of it!.
 
The camshaft failure is absolutely Toyota's fault.
And Toyota is taking good care of their customers. So the customer satisfaction willl still be some 95%. The customer will get a new engine, extended warranty, and a temporary work truck to toss around.

This is the best (or least bad) way to handle it though. Problems that don't get fixed, or even those that don't get fixed the first time, are remembered for a long time. Case in point, the Toyota sludge case, or Honda's V6 automatics (which kept failing).
 
On the other hand no one talks about the first Lexus recall in a bad way anymore - it was largely forgiven and forgotten. That's the way to handle one of these things.

I don't think you guys get it. When I say "supplier" I mean the actual foundery that supplies the MATERIAL to the "vendor" that Toyota buys the parts from. You don't think every part manufacturer has a foundery sitting in the back yard do you? No.
 
If Toyotas vendor, say "ABC machine shop" (cause I have no clue what shop makes those camshafts) buys a batch of metal from a supplier like Yard metals Co to turn said camshafts with, it is completely out of Toyotas hands as to what the quality of the metal that ABC recieves. ABC delivers the parts to Toyota with a certification that says "Yup, that's 4660 steel, it's been turned, it's been forged, yup it's good" and the stuff meets print. If there is an internal flaw, like what seems to be going on here, there is absolutley no way Toyota is going to be looking over the shoulders of Yard metals to make sure the material is 100% perfect!
 
Is Toyotas vendor at fault here? yes. Is that vendors supplier at fault here? Much more so. Toyota however has the least of the blame here.

When Toyota had their sludge problem, they initially pointed fingers at the owners and reaped a lot of negative PR from their handling of the problem.
 
You'd think they'd simply acknowledge this problem and agree to fix it and not even point fingers at the supplier. They can always do charge backs or warranty claims against the supplier out of the public eye -- to air it in the press looks like they are fishing for excuses.
 
I suppose the issue arose from customer warranty claims - maybe Toyota should be faulted for not testing more samples in house or via independent metallurgical testing labs?