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2010 Honda Insight EX: The Future Plan

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While I was at an alternative fuels conference last week, I stopped by the Honda booth to check out their electric vehicle (EV) and plug-in hybrid (PHEV) offerings. No joy.

You see, according to the handouts at their booth, hybrids are as close as Honda will get to EVs (at least publicly, for now). Honda is banking on natural gas vehicles (NGVs) and hydrogen fuel cells for their future plan. 

I like the idea of more natural gas vehicles. The long-term Civic we had drove like a normal underpowered compact, and the fuel is somewhat plentiful and domestically produced (no nation-building required). I also drove the FCX Clarity and was amazed by the fuel cell stack technology and driveability, but using electricity to turn hydrogen into electricity is a bit of circular logic to me. 

And I like hybrids a lot: with these you can have a larger vehicle that still gets decent fuel economy, with no disruption to infrastructure. However, a lot of petro fuel comes from countries that hate us. And though evolving, producing a long-life energy-rich battery that is well-adapted to the harsh vehicle environment still challenges.

So I like NGVs the best of the alternative fuel options, but they're dead: most people want hybrids, including plug-ins.

How about you? Any of these technologies appeal to you, or do you prefer good-ol' dino juice?

Albert Austria, Senior Engineer @ ~18,400 miles 

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2007 Honda Civic GX: What's the Code, Kenneth?

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Seems our radio in our 2007 Honda Civic GX is broken. This error message was already on when I got into the car the day before but I wanted to check the long-term blogs to see if anyone mentioned it. No one did.

In any case the satellite radio doesn't work, neither does the CD player or the radio. I looked it up in the owner's manual since this thing seems to be asking for a code but the manual doesn't say anything about a special code or this issue. However, when I Googled it, I came across this: https://radio-navicode.honda.com/

Not sure how this happened in the first place but apparently the anti-theft light turns on when you replace the battery. Although I don't think anyone did that over the weekend.

POST EDIT: OK, that Web site didn't recognize the VIN but I did finally find a card with the code on it in the owner's package located in the glovebox. So that's fixed. Yay.

Caroline Pardilla, Deputy Managing Editor

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2007 Honda Civic GX: Why I Picked It Over the Camaro

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Why did I pick our 2007 Honda Civic, boring to drive as heck, over the snazzy 2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS for my ride last night?

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2007 Honda Civic GX: New Pump Alert

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On my way back from a night at the movies with some friends on Friday, I spotted something at the 76 on La Cienega and Olympic: a CNG pump. Score! I was pretty stoked -- the station's just a couple of blocks from where I live, and the pump's presence meant I wouldn't have to drive all the way to Santa Monica to get the tank filled over the very rainy weekend.

The CNG pump is pretty new to that station. The attendant said it's been there for "less than two months." Nice to see more options being offered for drivers of CNG vehicles.

Warren Clarke, Automotive Content Editor @ 36,980 miles  

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2007 Honda Civic GX: Easily Upset

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Our natural gas Civic does not like rough pavement. Last night I was puttering home and rolled up to a stop sign. The pavement leading up to the intersection was riddled with small potholes and choppy asphalt and the Civic did not take kindly to it. Under normal braking, I felt the front wheels wash away as the tires struggled to find grip - almost like I was trying to stop on gravel. It was something I hadn't noticed before, so I began paying closer attention to the car's suspension. Next was a right turn that forked-off of the main boulevard. I knew this turn well, since in my earlier years, I used to use a mid-corner bump to gleefully pitch my old musclecar into a brief little slide. Even at sensible speeds without intentionally trying to upset the Civic, it too stepped out just slightly as it rolled over the bump. I was not impressed.

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Big List of Fuel Economy: December 2009

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Below are the fuel economy numbers for December 2009. We've listed the best, worst and overall average tanks.

As usual, a couple of cars are out on the road or unavailable at the time of this writing. I'll continue to add them as they come in and let you know in the comments.

  Car
Best
Worst
Average
2009 Audi A4
28.3
14.2
21.2
2009 Audi S5
22.3
10.8
17.0
2008 BMW 750i
23.3
12.4
17.5
2009 BMW M3
24.2
10.8
16.0
2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS
23.1
9.4
17.0
2009 Dodge Challenger R/T
26.4
10.3
17.1
2009 Dodge Ram 1500
19.4
10.5
15.0
2009 Ford Flex Limited
26.7
13.3
19.3
2007 Honda Civic GX
47.3
12.7
38.4
2009 Honda Fit Sport
39.0
24.9
31.0
2010 Honda Insight EX
43.9
27.9
38.7
2009 Hyundai Genesis
28.5
14.3
21.3
2009 Infiniti FX50
22.0
11.7
17.0
2009 Mazda 6
30.2
18.7
23.9
2010 Mazdaspeed 3
28.1
16.3
21.2
2009 Nissan 370Z
27.0
12.0
18.0
2009 Pontiac G8 GT
24.3
12.0
18.0
2009 Suzuki SX4
28.3
17.2
23.1
2010 Volvo XC60
20.0
12.7
17.4

After the jump you can see the list sorted by best average MPG.

 

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2007 Honda Civic GX: Phill Error Hobbles Home Refills

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I've got blowdown failure.

It's not fatal, but it does gets a little frustrating. It's been taking an extra 30 minutes or so to get the job done every night.

Seems like each time I hook the 2007 Civic GX up to the Phill home natural gas fueling system, a red error light pops on before I've walked the 20 feet to the door leading from garage to house.

The first two green lights on the fueling indicator display also light up when I go back and push and hold the Phill's "stop" button,  as instructed in the service manual I got when the Phill was installed nearly two years and 2,000 operating hours ago.

The handy dandy Phill error decoder pages in the manual tell me that the problem is "blowdown failure," an apparent obstruction somewhere in the Phill's nozzle or fuel filler hose - or maybe the car's fuel filler inlet.

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Big List of Fuel Economy: November 2009

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Below are the fuel economy numbers for November 2009. We've listed the best, worst and overall average tanks.

As usual, a couple of cars are out on the road or unavailable at the time of this writing. I'll continue to add them as they come in and let you know in the comments.

  Car
Best
Worst
Average
2009 Audi A4 Avant
26.8
15.2
21.7
2009 Audi S5
22.3
10.8
16.2
2008 BMW 750i
23.3
12.4
17.5
2009 BMW M3
24.2
10.8
16.0
2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS
23.1
13.1
17.4
2009 Dodge Challenger R/T
26.4
10.3
17.1
2009 Dodge Ram 1500
19.4
10.5
14.1
2009 Ford Flex Limited
26.7
13.3
19.2
2007 Honda Civic GX
47.3
12.7
31.8
2009 Honda Fit Sport
39.0
24.9
31.0
2010 Honda Insight EX
43.9
27.9
38.5
2009 Hyundai Genesis
28.5
14.3
21.2
2009 Infiniti FX50
22.0
10.7
17.1
2009 Mazda 6
30.8
18.7
23.8
2010 Mazdaspeed 3
28.1
16.3
21.2
2009 Pontiac G8 GT
24.3
12.0
18.0
2009 Suzuki SX4
28.3
17.2
23.1
2010 Volvo XC60
19.6
12.7
16.9

After the jump you can see the list sorted by best average MPG.

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2007 Honda Civic GX vs. 2009 Mini E: Which Do You Prefer?

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So after spending last weekend in our Mini E and jumping into our 2007 Honda Civic GX last night, I think I'm able to develop a quasi-educated opinion about our two green cars. As you already know the Honda is our natural gas long-termer, the Mini E our electric car.

Honda Civic GX

Pros:

  • Even though it has a small trunk at least you can carry three passengers.
  • Awesome fuel range.
  • Can fill at home with Phill
  • Ours has a single occupant car-pool lane sticker. Woo!

Cons:

  • The limited availability of natural gas fueling stations makes it tricky for planning long road trips.
  • Not fun to drive but at all.

Mini E

Pros:

  • Still retains some of its gokartness.
  • I find it easy to drive in stop-and-go traffic once I got used to taking my foot of the accelerator to slow down, etc.
  • No gas required.
  • Can charge it at home even without a specially installed wall charger.

Cons:

  • With only two seats and a tiny trunk, you can't haul much around.
  • Takes a lonnnng time to recharge.
  • Very limited driving range means you have to carefully plan your trips or take none at all.
  • Would have to be your second car.

Which one do I prefer?

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Big List of Fuel Economy: October 2009

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Below are the fuel economy numbers for October 2009. We've listed the best, worst and overall average tanks.

As usual, a couple of cars are out on the road or unavailable at the time of this writing. I'll continue to add them as they come in and let you know in the comments.

  Car
Best
Worst
Average
2009 Audi A4 Avant
26.8
15.2
21.7
2009 Audi S5
22.3
10.8
16.2
2008 BMW 750i
21.8
13.0
17.3
2009 BMW M3
20.7
10.8
15.7
2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS
23.1
13.1
17.3
2009 Dodge Challenger R/T
26.4
10.3
16.6
2009 Dodge Ram 1500
19.4
10.5
14.1
2009 Ford Flex Limited
26.7
13.3
19.2
2007 Honda Civic GX
47.3
12.7
31.5
2009 Honda Fit Sport
39.0
24.9
30.9
2010 Honda Insight EX
43.9
27.9
38.1
2009 Hyundai Genesis
28.5
14.3
21.2
2009 Infiniti FX50
22.0
10.7
17.1
2009 Mazda 6
30.2
18.7
23.7
2010 Mazdaspeed 3
26.7
16.3
20.1
2008 Mitsubishi Evo X GSR
22.6
11.0
17.0
2009 Nissan 370Z
24.4
13.2
18.4
2009 Nissan GT-R
21.8
11.5
16.4
2009 Pontiac G8 GT
24.3
12.0
18.0
2009 Suzuki SX4
28.3
17.2
22.2
2010 Volvo XC60
19.0
12.7
16.5

After the jump you can see the list sorted by best average MPG.

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2007 Honda Civic GX: The Clean, Green Routine

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CivicGC_Fill02.jpgBesides the lower emissions our Civic GX enjoys, there's an added bonus -- the refueling experience is much cleaner compared to gasoline-powered cars. There are no liquids spilling at the pump and no ruined shoes. Also, the nozzle is easier to maneuver than the heavier, California-compliant gasoline ones. First-time fillers may feel a bit apprehensive with the different procedure, but it soon becomes as routine as with any other car. It's also convenient that CNG pumps feature a readout that displays how much more you have to fill. Yes, sometimes it'll take longer to refuel, but maybe that'll change someday.

Mark Takahashi, Associate Editor @ 34,960 miles

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Big List of Fuel Economy: September 2009

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Below are the fuel economy numbers for September 2009. We've listed the best, worst and overall average tanks.

As always, a couple of cars are out on the road or unavailable at the time of this writing. I'll continue to add them as they come in and let you know in the comments.

  Car
Best
Worst
Average
2009 Audi A4 Avant
26.8
15.2
21.7
2009 Audi S5
22.3
11.8
17.0
2008 BMW 750i
21.8
13.0
17.3
2009 BMW M3
20.5
10.8
15.6
2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS
23.1
13.8
17.7
2009 Dodge Challenger R/T
26.4
10.3
16.7
2009 Dodge Ram 1500
16.3
10.5
13.3
2009 Ford Flex Limited
26.7
13.3
19.1
2007 Honda Civic GX
47.3
12.7
31.7
2009 Honda Fit Sport
39.0
24.9
30.8
2010 Honda Insight EX
43.9
27.9
38.0
2009 Hyundai Genesis
28.5
14.3
21.3
2009 Infiniti FX50
22.0
10.7
17.2
2009 Mazda 6
29.4
20.7
23.7
2008 Mitsubishi Evo X GSR
22.6
11.0
17.0
2009 Nissan 370Z
24.4
13.2
18.3
2009 Nissan GT-R
21.8
11.5
16.4
2009 Pontiac G8 GT
24.3
12.0
18.0
2009 Suzuki SX4
28.3
17.2
22.9

After the jump you can see the list sorted by best average MPG.

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2007 Honda Civic GX: No Rug Burn Here

 

012509_GXmat_0006.JPGHopped in the long-term Civic GX this morning and noticed that the floormat was scooched up over the base of the pedal.

I wouldn't normally have noticed - it wasn't much of a scooch - but I'd just written a piece about that massive Toyota safety campaign and pending recall for scrunched-up floor mats that were jamming gas pedals, so the subject was on my mind. 

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Big List of Fuel Economy: August 2009

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Below are the fuel economy numbers for August 2009. We've listed the best, worst and overall average tanks.

As always, a couple of cars are out on the road or unavailable at the time of this writing. I'll continue to add them as they come in and let you know in the comments.

  Car
Best
Worst
Average
2009 Audi A4 Avant
26.8
15.2
21.7
2009 Audi S5
22.3
11.8
16.5
2008 BMW 135i
27.7
13.9
19.9
2009 BMW M3
20.5
10.8
15.7
2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS
21.7
14.7
17.5
2009 Dodge Challenger R/T
26.4
10.3
16.7
2009 Dodge Ram 1500
16.3
10.5
13.2
2009 Ford Flex Limited
26.7
13.3
19.2
2007 Honda Civic GX
47.3
12.7
31.7
2009 Honda Fit Sport
39.0
24.9
30.6
2010 Honda Insight EX
43.9
27.9
38.0
2009 Hyundai Genesis
27.5
14.3
21.1
2009 Infiniti FX50
22.0
10.7
17.3
2009 Mazda 6
30.2
18.7
23.5
2008 Mitsubishi Evo X GSR
22.6
11.0
17.0
2009 Nissan 370Z
24.4
13.7
18.4
2009 Nissan GT-R
21.8
11.5
16.4
2009 Pontiac G8 GT
24.0
12.0
17.6
2009 Suzuki SX4
28.3
17.6
23.0
2009 Volkswagen Jetta TDI
43.0
28.0
34.5

After the jump you can see the list sorted by best average MPG.

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Big List of Fuel Economy: July 2009

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Below are the fuel economy numbers for July 2009. We've listed the best, worst and overall average tanks.

As always, a few cars are out on the road or unavailable at the time of this writing. I'll continue to add them as they come in and let you know in the comments.

 Car
Best
Worst
Average
 2009 Audi A4 Avant
26.8
15.2
21.5
 2009 Audi S5
22.3
11.8
17.0
 2008 BMW 135i
27.7
13.9
19.8
 2009 BMW 750i
21.8
12.4
17.3
 2009 BMW M3
20.5
12.6
16.0
 2009 Dodge Challenger R/T
23.4
12.0
16.6
 2009 Dodge Ram 1500
16.3
10.5
13.3
 2009 Ford Flex Limited
26.7
13.3
19.1
 2008 Ford Focus SES Coupe
40.6
16.6
26.7
 2007 Honda Civic GX
47.3
12.7
31.6
 2009 Honda Fit Sport
39.0
24.9
30.9
 2010 Honda Insight EX
43.9
27.9
36.5
 2009 Infiniti FX50
22.0
10.7
17.1
 2008 Mitsubishi Evo X GSR
22.6
11.0
17.0
 2009 Nissan 370Z
24.4
13.7
18.1
 2009 Nissan GT-R
21.8
11.5
16.4
 2009 Pontiac G8 GT
24.0
12.0
17.6
 2008 Smart Fortwo Passion
43.4
23.5
33.6
 2009 Suzuki SX4
28.3
17.6
23.0
 2009 Volkswagen Jetta TDI
43.0
28.0
34.5

After the jump you can see the list sorted by best average MPG.

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2007 Honda Civic GX: Keeps on Ticking, But Phill Won't

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There's not much new to say about the Civic GX - it still runs like a top, albeit one that's a bit slow to wind up; hasn't given us any trouble and except for a little body work after a fender-bender hasn't been in the shop other than for oil changes and one brake job (a problem with Civics).

The first major service isn't scheduled until 100,000 miles - that's about 67,000 miles from now - and I've every reason to believe it will get there just fine.

Not sure about its home fueling companion, though.

Our Phill is about 25 percent through its apparently artificial lifespan of 6,000 hours.

The installer pointed this out to me when he hung the unit on the garage wall: FuelMaker programmed the software to shut the system down at 6,000 hours to ensure that nothing bad would happen - and, probably, to make a little more money as the approved route was to ship it back to FuelMaker for a $2,000 rebuild.

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2007 Honda Civic GX: Phill is Back!

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We've been left in an info vacuum about the future of the Phill home natural gas fueling device for our 2007 Honda Civic GX since FuelMaker Corp., the company that used to make and service it, when belly up.

Its assets and technology were purchased earlier this year by Fuel Systems Solutions, the California-based company that also owns Impco Technologies, one of the world's largest manufacturers of OEM and aftermarket natural gas conversion systems.

Several requests for information from Fuel Systems spokespeople since then have been met with silence, leaving s to wonder if we now owned a museum piece.  Having a GX and no Phill is like having bread but no butter.

But now, as a Phill owner (we bought one for the GX early last year), we've received an update from one of the company's distributors.

"You'll be pleased to know," the missive states (and we are, we definitely are), "that Fuel Systems...will continue to offer service and repairs for the FuelMaker HRA (Phill)."

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2009 Honda Civic GX: An Afternoon at the Pump

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Yep, that's me chilling out while the Civic GX gets filled up with clean natural gas at our local station. With only a quarter tank remaining, it took 24 minutes before I finally gave up and stopped the pump. Before explaining that, lets go back a bit.

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Honda Civic: The Two Extremes

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Say what you want about the Honda Civic, but there's no denying the vehicle's range. You want a cheap A to B sedan? No problem. An inexpensive, fun, little coupe? Got it. A Hybrid? Sure. One that runs on Natural Gas?  Okay. A hot rod? Yup.

Basically there's a Civic for everybody and everything. And so I thought it would be fun to compare the track test numbers of the Civic's two extremes, our long-term Civic GX, which drinks (or is it inhales?) compressed natural gas and the Civic Si, which is known for eating American musclecars.

Both are front-wheel drive and powered by four-cylinders and both cost about $25,000, but the GX is powered by a 113 hp 1.8-liter engine while the Si is packing a 197 hp 2.0-liter. Oh, and the GX uses a 5-speed automatic transmission. The Si of course get six-speed manual.

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2007 Honda Civic GX: At $1.22 a Gallon, What's Not to Like?

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It's been two months since I last drove our Honda Civic GX, and unlike most of my colleagues, I'm actually looking forward to getting back behind the wheel.

I've enjoyed the natural gas-fueled Civic ever since I started using it back in October of 2007 for most of my daily commuting between my home in Orange and Edmunds' offices in Santa Monica - not because it's a particularly exciting car to drive but because it is the ideal Southern California long-distance commuter car.

It comes with a single occupant car-pool lane sticker, which cuts about an hour a day from my 100 mile-plus round trip; it's saved hundreds of dollars on fuel and, with a Phill home fueling unit in my garage (thank you, boss!) I don't have to worry about where my next tank will come from.

And consider this: Fuel consumption has averaged 32.8 mpg over the last 19,000 miles, and the average cost of fillingl its tank from the home natural gas pump is a mere $1.22 per gasoline gallon-equivalent.  That's for both the natural gas and the electricity to compress and pump it.

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