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1985 Porsche 911 Carrera: Round and Black

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You would think that getting tires for a slightly weathered Porsche would be the work of a moment.  After all, tires are all round and black, aren’t they?

But when the ancient Bridgestones on the Black Plague finally had given their all after a summer of sliding through the canyons, it took serious detective work to locate some tires in the correct size.

We’d scoped out the situation clear back last spring, and while it was apparent that the selection of 16-inch tires for Porsche 911s was rapidly becoming smaller, there were choices available. But when we looked again last month, it appeared that every last 245/45R-16 tire on the planet had been kidnapped by aliens.

 

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This is a fairly rare size, of course. Most of the American-specification 911SCs and 911 Carrera 3.2s of the 1980s carry 16-inch wheels with 7.0-inch rims in the front and 8.0-inch rims in the back. A 225/50R-16 is the preferred size for rear tires, and you can still find a good selection of modern tires in this size from first-class tire manufacturers.

Meanwhile, the Turbo (and “Turbo Look”) variants of these 1980s 911s have 16-inch wheels with 9.0-inch rims meant to carry 245/45R-16s, and naturally the market isn’t very large for these tires. We found that Nexen made a tire in this size (a friend of ours at Honda put them on his 911 Carrera 3.2 and seems to like these Korean-made tires well enough), but we were hoping for something a little more high tech for the Black Plague than just “round and black.”

The Porsche forums have been noting the scarcity of Turbo-size rear tires for 1980s 911s in recent months. There were choices to be made if you chose an almost treadless R-compound tire from BF Goodrich, Hankook, Hoosier, Kuhmo, or Toyo, but nothing in a street tire. Then we discovered that the Fuzion ZRi came in the right size, and it turns out that the company has links to Bridgestone and indeed seems to incorporate past Bridgestone technology in its tires. Tire Rack seemed to evaluate this Z-rated summer performance tire very favorably. The trouble was, the only examples we could find being marketed on the Internet seemed to be leftovers in faraway Florida tire emporiums.

Then by a fluke we tried Automotion, a long-time specialist in Porsche parts and accessories with a large presence in Porsche specialist magazines. It has a nice thick catalog that you can download (Automotion will even mail it to you for free), and a few seconds work with the Web site located the set of Fuzion ZRis we needed and a $588.41 click of the mouse dispatched them to us by UPS. Of course, we’re a little afraid to read the sidewall code and find out exactly when the tires were manufactured, but among our options in the round and black department, we feel good about our purchase. The truth is, the Dunlop SP Sport D40 tires that we recall as original fitment for the 1986 Porsche 911 Turbo in the U.S. might have been great at the time, but perhaps not so high-tech in retrospect.

There are two lessons here. First, it will be a long time before you discover that parts for an old Porsche 911 are unavailable (New Old Stock, reproductions and junkyard pieces fill the gap), but tires might be another matter, because technology has changed so rapidly over the last 40 years (heck, the last 10 years). There are tire companies that specialize in tires of the distant past, but fitments for the Porsche 911 are not yet on their radar.

The second lesson is, the Porsche aftermarket is vast and healthy. In the old days, you had to find parts with late night phone calls to strangers in foreign lands, but now companies like Automotion make it as easy to own an old Porsche as it is to own an old Chevy.

Of course, sometimes you will have to settle for round and black.

Michael Jordan, Executive Editor, Edmunds.com

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15 Comments

rod_stewart says:

06:04 PM, 01/10/12

Are you going to put these on backwards too? (LOL couldnt resist)

-Rod

three40duster says:

06:54 PM, 01/10/12

Fuzions aren't bad. Wife's Stratus R/T coupe had the HRis on it a few years ago, and they stuck decently well and wore well, never had to replace them in the 40k she put on it.

zcalvert says:

07:17 PM, 01/10/12

Ha!

rod_stewart... i was looking forward to being the jackass who asked that...

bassrockerx says:

08:54 PM, 01/10/12

i honestly dont think you looked hard enough but IF you really did having to deal with the fuzions for the time being untill you get you a set of michelen ps2's custom made for that size(shouldent take too long) is a lot better then running on may-pops.

sodiezl350 says:

05:26 AM, 01/11/12

Looks like the Toyo T1Rs come in this size. While the Fuzions aren't bad I find the Toyos to be significantly better. It's too bad Tirerack doesn't sell Toyo. It seems that most people assume that they sell every brand and generally overlook the ones they don't sell.

DLu says:

06:07 AM, 01/11/12

Get new rims

hybris says:

06:56 AM, 01/11/12

Two things come to mind.

1. These Fuzions sound like they are out of production so just how old are the tires and should we worry about hearing about "Porsche Blow Out" type posts?

2. There appear to be a wide selection of 245\50R16 tires on tire rack yes they would be about a inch bigger in diameter than the old tires but you would have your pick of tires so I have to ask did you even think about changing your desired tire size to fit the realities of the market that you are in?

dinobot666 says:

07:21 AM, 01/11/12

You could have picked a worse tire. Actually, probably not.

At least you'll be replacing them soon, because they don't last very long.

pumpkinfish says:

08:44 AM, 01/11/12

Why not buy a good set of 17" wheels, open up a greater range of tire selections and save the stock wheels for the sale at the end of your term?

csubowtie says:

12:00 PM, 01/11/12

1) You had a great excuse to ditch those ugly wheels and passed it up!? Fail.

2) I find it interesting that Porsche used 2 INCH wider wheels for 2 CENTIMETER wider tires.

csubowtie says:

12:02 PM, 01/11/12

Dang-it, just re-read more carefully, scratch my 2). Why isn't there an edit button yet?

joefrompa says:

02:02 PM, 01/11/12

245/50/16 has tons of options

Will that fit?

texases says:

02:10 PM, 01/11/12

I bet if they ditched the spacers the 245/50/16 might fit...

mieden says:

03:41 PM, 01/12/12

Had those on my E-class. They're loud, and didnt last as long as I expected (might have something to do with that fast trip through the PA turnpike...), but for the money I cant say it was a bad tire.

88carrera says:

10:59 AM, 01/24/12

Actually, most of the 80's 911s came with 6" & 7" Fuchs, not the 7" & 8" quoted. Tire size was the same for either rim selection though.

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