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2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06: The Downside of Lateral Bolstering

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We love seats that hold us in place while cornering, but there's a price to pay for big lateral back-cushion bolsters in a car that's low to the ground. After 50,000 miles worth of butts rubbing against its outboard bolster during the ingress boogie, our 2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 is showing signs of wear in that region.

Now you might think I'd be the first person on the bandwagon to lay into the Z06 for having leather upholstery of suspect quality, but my feeling is there's just no avoiding this in a sportscar that is loved and used as the builders in Bowling Green intended. True, our 2002 BMW M3 of similar mileage and bolsterage didn't show quite this much wear, but it didn't sit so low to the ground, so getting in required less contortion. Moreover, I fully expect our long-term Viper to be in a similar state on its 50,000-mile birthday; I lost a button on its giant side bolster over the weekend.

Detail shots of the damage after the jump.

Erin Riches, Senior Editor @ 50,109 miles

 

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29 Comments

audisport says:

12:22 PM, 08/ 4/10

For that many miles and years, that seat looks good to me. I suspect that the side bolsters are vinyl though, not leather. The graining looks different than that in the middle of the seat.

tmanz says:

12:26 PM, 08/ 4/10

The fancy motorized seats can slide back automatically to let you in or out, how about a bolster that folds out to make it easier :)

the worn area does look a bit vinylish.

sgude says:

12:36 PM, 08/ 4/10

Instead of going in the normal way (butt slides across the bolster), face away from the seat, sit down, then turn your legs into the car, the way a woman with a tight dress does. I use this method, although I don't look anywhere near as good doing it as a woman with a tight dress does ...

zcalvert says:

12:39 PM, 08/ 4/10

The quality of the upholstery is a secondary issue. Corvette seats have been a joke for GENERATIONS of 'vettes.

There is such a huge amount of quality engineering the the C5 & C6 Corvettes - I just can't fathom why it is that they refuse to use decent seats. ... it's not like they're unaware of the issue.

my_cardevotion says:

12:48 PM, 08/ 4/10

Happens on a number of AMG cars as well. I've tried the same method that sgude mentioned, but found it much easier to just move the seats before getting in and out. Some people like to prop and lift themselves in like drivers do with fixed after-market bucket seats (ie. Recaro)

feloniousmonk says:

01:13 PM, 08/ 4/10

Have you ever seen an 8+ year old leather seat in a pickup owned by a fat guy? Talk about damage! And they don't have the luxury of blaming the damage on big bolsters. Those seats are flat like the plains, but that broad flatness combined with the high step in/out height and the drivers girth contributes to a whole lotta heavy butt dragging both getting in and out. Some of those truck seats look old and worn after only a year.

roadburner says:

01:45 PM, 08/ 4/10

Pronounced bolsters and the habit of sliding in and out of the seat will almost always result in increased wear. BMW sport seats also suffer similar wear. That said, supportive buckets beat the "sitting on a park bench" feeling- whether they are in a BMW, a Chevy, a Mazda, or whatever.

ptcdawg says:

02:37 PM, 08/ 4/10

This is a non issue.

yamahr1 says:

02:53 PM, 08/ 4/10

The side bolsters on the Vette seats are vinyl. This was an early change on the C5 due to complaints about wearing of the leather on the side bolsters, and IL's seats look to be the vinyl versions. Looks like the vinyl isn't immune to wear there either, and given how durable vinyl is that's saying something. I have a C5, and don't recall hitting the side bolster getting in and out. I do have a little bit of wear on the bottom cushion, however, which is still leather, after almost 20K miles. Note that on the uplevel sport seats, the side bolsters are electrically adjustable for how much squeeze you get, with two separate areas of adjustable lumbar support as well.

The vette seats are not as bad as the whiners make it sound, in fact for long trips they do the job nicely. I've done multi-long-day trips in the vette with great comfort. They are not usually rock solid in their mounts, however, and that's a legit complaint where you can sometimes feel a little movement fore and aft under hard acceleration and braking. The seats in my '04 are somewhat different and look nicer than these Z06 seats, though, so I'm not sure they're exactly comparable.

theodore2 says:

04:27 PM, 08/ 4/10

another cheap chevy!$45000 plus doesn't even give you quality seats! Untop of worst fuel milage than the viper! Inferior!!!

bodyblue says:

04:27 PM, 08/ 4/10

The seats look cheap and ugly but the wear does not seem bad at all.

yamahr1 says:

07:12 PM, 08/ 4/10

To theodore2, perhaps after you learn written grammar and spelling better than a good 3rd grader, you can work on getting your facts straight. The Vette has always gotten better fuel economy than the Viper. My C5 gets 30 on the highway at 80 MPH, beating its EPA estimate by a few MPG, which themselves beat Viper's EPA estimates by a few MPGs. And while Corvette has often been called a "world class sports car" by the press, as much as I do like the Viper I don't think it's ever been accused of the same thing.

So I have to wonder if this is what IL intended all along, to drum up negative GM comments using an 8 year old, arguably abused used car, which was mostly designed in the mid-90's. Brilliant.

BTW, here's what my C5 Corvette seats look like:
http://picasaweb.google.com/yamahr1/CorvettePhotos#5465333450403182498

bimmerjay says:

07:47 PM, 08/ 4/10

"The fancy motorized seats can slide back automatically to let you in or out, how about a bolster that folds out to make it easier :)"

The BMW M5 (E60) does this - when you open the driver's door, the bolsters immediately unsqueeze to make ingress/egress easier. When you shut the door they squeeze back into place.

majin_ssj_eric says:

09:39 PM, 08/ 4/10

[sgude says - Instead of going in the normal way (butt slides across the bolster), face away from the seat, sit down, then turn your legs into the car...]

That is exactly how I get in and out of my car. Works like a charm...

shouldermonkey says:

11:06 PM, 08/ 4/10

Just toss these seats out and get some real racing buckets from Sparco or Recaro.

ms3hothatch says:

04:30 AM, 08/ 5/10

If it has not been mentioned before, the future is inflatable bolsters that only fill in when somebody is already seating.

kdiggz says:

06:47 AM, 08/ 5/10

I think you guys are just too fat for the seats.

sodiezl350 says:

07:19 AM, 08/ 5/10

Stop telling us what a piece of shit the interior is and put some new tires on the car and drive it. I'm tired of reading about the next little plastic piece that broke off. It's almost a joke this car is still driving on bald tires.

chochmastergen says:

07:39 AM, 08/ 5/10

sodiezl350

+1

I don't know anyone that buys a Corvette for its seat bolsters or for any feature of the interior except the bits that connect the driver to the engine.

jeepsrt says:

07:47 AM, 08/ 5/10

@bimmerjay
My Wife and I looked at a used M5 and the seats were flat and extremely worn on the bolsters, not sure if it is normal or just that particular owner that abused them.

nofreee says:

08:25 AM, 08/ 5/10

@theodore2

If you are going to bash the Vette, at least get your facts straight. As I pointed out in another Z06 blog post which you made the same exact claim that the Viper gets better gas mileage, the facts of the matter are below.

From the factory, MPG ratings are as follows:

2002 Z06 - 19 / 28 mpg
2009 Viper SRT10 - 13 / 22 mpg

I drove my C5Z conservatively for a week and was able to manage over 24mpg combined on my daily 50 mile roundtrip commute. 75/25 Highway/City miles.

crackheadalley says:

09:00 AM, 08/ 5/10

Driver is too fat.

Sliding butt into bolster and falling into seat is no proper way to seat into a sports car.

Sell Corvette and buy appropriate white Buick Lucerne with dealer installed optional fake soft top. Go golfing in Florida.

jhonson1010 says:

09:20 AM, 08/ 5/10

Sounds like 50000 miles on any GM product - of course it's wearing out. How does this surprise any of us that aren't GM fanboys?

cr_driver says:

11:26 AM, 08/ 5/10

"For that many miles and years, that seat looks good to me."

+100

c5z06er says:

12:01 PM, 08/ 5/10

I think it's too bad that IL bought an 8 year old top of the line corvette (or it was at the time, anyway) and then just a few weeks later got a brand new Viper. Sure the Vette looks worn out and beat up, especially when you go back and forth between looking at pictures of the new Viper. It's hard to keep reminding yourself that you're looking at a $20k hole in your checkbook vs a $90k hole.

It would be great if IL got an 8 year old Viper and could compare it directly with the Z06.

In regards to the seats, I've found that while some cars do have a tendency to wear in certain places (try to find a used Jeep that doesn't a a vertical tear on the left side of the driver seat cushion... I couldn't) it also depends greatly on who the previous owner was and how the treated the car. If they regularly cleaned the seats, of course the leather will look better. If they weighed 180 lbs, the seat bolsters won't be as worn out if they weighed 250 lbs.

brooksbell says:

01:17 PM, 08/ 5/10

I fear the future where anything inflates when I sit on it.

stingray454 says:

07:24 AM, 08/ 6/10

I thought you guys were planning on modifying this Z06. I remember early on one of the editors was asking for aftermarket seat suggestions, which I provided, along with a bunch of others. Weren't you going to do some engine mods too? Seems like the poor car can't even get a new pair of shoes from Edmunds.

theodore2 says:

07:59 PM, 08/ 6/10

YAMAHR1 I guess you can't take the truth! How come edmunds car gets inferior fuel mileage? I guess you must of been dusted by a VIPER recently!!! So is that 30 mpg down hill with the engine off!? Fiber car!!!

24hrz16 says:

10:32 AM, 08/ 8/10

I just laugh whenever I hear people complain about the corvette being "unrefined" and "overpriced."
You have to look at things in perspective. This car is all about performance and heritage. That's what people who buy them are looking for. Corvette has always been the best performance sports car for the money. If you want "luxury" along with the sport, spend twice the money, and buy a porsche.

As far as the seats, they are meant to be generic to fit almost any kind of driver. I doubt a 300lb man can fit in between the bolsters of a $5k Recaro seat. And if that's what you really want, there are plenty of aftermarket seats you can put in a vette.

People usually also complain about the interior. What's the point of that in a sports car? You should be looking outside the windshield, and not at the fine-stitched leather on your center console.

The vette is great for what the car is, and if you're looking for a different type of vehicle, then go buy something else.

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