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2009 Nissan GT-R: Suspension Walkaround

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At last we come to the suspension walkaround for the 2009 Nissan GT-R. I've been holding off waiting for answers from Japan to a couple of clarifying technical questions. But I can't wait any longer. I'll point them out as we go along.

As you'd expect, the GT-R has a lot of interesting things going on, but much of it is obscured. To get at some it we'll have to take the GT-R to a real lift at a later date and remove multiple covers and undertrays that are not found on mainstream cars.

I know you didn't hear any of that because you were hypnotized by the humungous 6-pistom Brembo brake calipers and two-piece rotors. They're two piece because the rotor is pinned to a lightweight aluminum hub (black). But you need brakes like this if you're going to orbit the nurburgring in the mid 7-minute range and stop in less than 100 feet from 60 mph.

They brakes are so huge that they almost totally obscure the double control-arm suspension. But from here we can see an aluminum high-mount upper arm and the curved upper portion of the aluminum hub carrier.

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We can just see the lower end of the Bilstein monotube shock aborbers (yellow) and the split fork that makes room for the drive axle on the way to the attachment point on the lower control arm (LCA).

I'll go into the difference between monotube and twin-tube dampers another time, but for now know that the single-wall construction of a monotube shock expels heat readily and provides a larger inner diameter that allows for a larger piston and valve assembly and higher gas pressures, which in turn allows them to generate higher damping forces, be more sensitive and be more resistant to cavitation (foaming).

The rear bushing of that aluminum L-shaped lower control arm is hidden behind a plastic panel, but before it disappears, it dips down to make rom for the steering rack and tie-rod ends (red). The GT-R's steering is mounted behind the front axle centerline because of the presence of front drive components and a generally crowded underhood environment. If that's the price I have to pay for twin turbos, I'll take it.


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Here's a close-up of the close quarters that house the steering rack, which barely fits beneath the drive components that supply torque to the front differential. We'll have to wait for another day to strip off all the covers and undertrays on a real shop lift to show you the driveline.



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Oh joy! More plastic covers. The Nissan GT-R has a lot of tight-fitting airflow management panels under the car and within the wheel wells. Here the large front stabilizer bar (white) emerges from one of them. And we get our first glimpse of the progressive rate coil-over spring (yellow) that surrounds the Bilstein shock.



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This head-on view of the lower control arm shows the arm ratios for the coil over (about 0.65) and the stabilizer bar (about 0.5). The actual motion ratio of the coil-over will be lower-still because of the angle at which it leans inward.  

So far, all of this is conceptually identical to the Infiniti FX-50 suspension. But the detail dimensions that represent the geometry (otherwise known as the hard points) are different, the tuning is different and I'd wager that none of the parts are interchangeable.

 

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By now you're used to seeing the sloped upper arm that comes with anti-dive suspension geometry, so it's no surprise seeing that the GT-R has plenty of it. Look up and down the coil sping (black) to see that the coil spacing varies and that plastic shields appear on a couple of coils. Both are signs that this is a progressive-rate spring.

The weird part is the mysterious molded construction of the structural panel that the upper suspension bolts to (green). It shows mold lines and sprues as if it were cast or molded from a composite material. I'm still waiting for a definitive answer on this.


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Here's a close-up of one of the attachment points for the upper arm.

 

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Here you can see where the mystery panel bolts to the steel unibody (yellow). The top of the Bilstein shock admits the wire for the adjustable damping feature. Inside there's a needle valve that slides in and out of an orifice to vary the amount of shock oil that bypasses the valve. More bypass reduces the amount of fluid going through the valve, and that results in softer damping for a smoother ride (relatively speaking, of course). Less bypass forces more fluid through the valve and produces higher damping forces for more control.

 

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There isn't any room for a stress bar between the two shock towers (yellow) so Nissan ran steel stiffening panels from the firewall to the frame horns, a move that accomplishes the same thing while it gives that bolt-on shock towers someplace to attach to.

 

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It should be no surprise that the GT-R has a multilink suspension. This one has a Y-shaped upper contol arm made of aluminum (yellow) and three steel links (white, black and green). Yes, steel.

And of course if has massive 4-piston fixed Brembo calipers over two-piece rear vented rotors that block the view of most of it.

 

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Bilstein monotube shocks with coil-over springs are used in the rear, too. The springs have equal coil spacing, which implies a straightforward linear rate.

 

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The approximation of a lower arm is made by a trailing link that angles forward (green) and a short lateral link (white). The lateral link has a curious dent about midway along it's lower surface. At first I thought this might be rock or debris damage, but a quick check showed that the other side has the exact same indentation, which makes me think it's intentional.

Why? My theory is that it provides for controlled collapse in the event of a high-g lateral impact, like a curb strike. Not sure why the GT-R would need that, particularly, when almost no other cars have this. I suppose it might prevent subframe and unibody damage, but then I'd think everyone would do it. It might be of particular advantage in the event the damage occured at a track: a link replacement is an easier trackside fix than a subframe swap.

But I'm still waiting for Japan to tell me if my theory is correct. 

 

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The last link is the rear toe link (green) which basically makes sure the wheels point in the right direction. Like other such links we've seen, it's longer than the lower link, and that means the outside rear tire will toe in slightly as the suspension compresses, creating a touch of understeer at the rear as the body rolls in a corner (called roll understeer). After all, you don't really want the outside rear tire toeing OUT as you turn into a high speed sweeper. That's forklift behaviour, and it can lead to a sudden loss of control in a high-speed corner or an emergency lane change.

The circle indicates another view of the mystery indentation, and the yellow arrow points to a rear stabilizer bar that's skinnier than expected.

Of course it's all surrounded by aerodynamic panels.

   

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Here's another view of that stabilizer bar (white). It mounts directly to the knuckle, via a bolt-on bracket. The resulting 1:1 motion ratio is a partial explanation for its tiny size. The shock absorber also bolts directly to the knuckle (yellow), so the dampers and springs are about as efficient as they can be, too.

The white circles show that the inner attachment points of the lower lateral link and the toe link are adjustable with eccentric cams. The former takes care of camber adjustment, and the latter allows static toe adjustment.

There's more than this. I have more shots of the brakes, tires and other assorted details, but I'll save that for part 2. Stay tuned.

 

Dan Edmunds, Director of Vehicle Testing @ some forgotten number of miles. 

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20 Comments

cbd22186 says:

12:52 AM, 06/ 6/09

Thanks for going through all this for us. I've learned a lot, and always look forward to the "walk around" posts. Have a great weekend!

kyolml says:

01:31 AM, 06/ 6/09

One more evidence about the close family relationship between GT-R, 370z, and FX.... FM platform.


And all we know is.....Where is the Stig?

siarizona says:

01:43 AM, 06/ 6/09

Well done, thank. F***ing amazing what engineers can do.

demosthenes642 says:

01:58 AM, 06/ 6/09

The indent might actually be so that at full compression the lower arm clears the inside lip of the wheel. I've seen similar things on upper links for clearance at full droop.

jwfisher says:

03:16 AM, 06/ 6/09

I've been eagerly anticipating this article - thanks!
Can you tell us how the camber would be adjusted on the front suspension - if it even can be? Or, like the other FMs, is there nothing for this?

-Jeff
DrivingEnthusiast.net

audisport says:

06:44 AM, 06/ 6/09

How about an S5 walkthrough?

cartester16 says:

08:18 AM, 06/ 6/09

Wow, the fanboys will be disappointed that this thing has actual arms, springs, shocks, bolts, like every other car, and STEEL parts, no less. I think most of them think it's guided by some powerful nuclear-generated forcefield thingamajig.

thehardcard says:

10:17 AM, 06/ 6/09

Actually, many of us fanboys are ecstatic that it has actual arms, springs, shocks, bolts, like every other car, and STEEL parts, no less.

It confirms to us that, given similar budgets and the same materials, Nisssan's engineers can do better than most others. Which is what made some of us fanboys.

tyndago says:

11:52 AM, 06/ 6/09

The upper suspension mounting points are made from aluminum.

uncanny_man says:

04:38 PM, 06/ 6/09

Wow, no wonder that thing is so heavy. So many parts in so little space...

mikeolan says:

05:00 PM, 06/ 6/09

Clearly, this superlative engineering and attention to detail means the car has no soul.

billt9 says:

06:22 PM, 06/ 6/09

According to the GT-R press kit, it looks like the "mystery panel" is just aluminum die casted.
http://press.nissan-global.com/PRESSKIT/NISSANGTR/0710/ENGLISH/MECHANISM/index10.html

As shown in the diagram.

billt9 says:

06:23 PM, 06/ 6/09

The GT-R's materials are identical to the Chevy Corvette Coupe, steel base frame with additional aluminum and carbon fiber frame parts.

heartlessbstrd says:

11:17 PM, 06/ 6/09

Good stuff; I'll be interested to hear what the answers to your questions from japan will be.

e34bmwlover says:

07:36 AM, 06/ 7/09

Is it me or CV axle boot is cracked in 4th pic?

cwc1 says:

07:52 PM, 06/ 7/09

^Wow, I didn't even notice that. Now that you've pointed it out, it does appear cracked. But it doesn't in the next picture, so perhaps it's an illusion.

actualsize says:

07:23 AM, 06/ 8/09

It's no surprise to me that the GT-R's susppension doesn't look particularly exotic. There are only so many basic layouts to choose from. The magic in a car's handling comes from the spring, damper, bushing and tire tuning, and from subtle dimensional differences in the "hard points" that are not obvious without an analysis of 3D modeling data.

1) The CV boot is not cracked. The "valleys" of a typical CV bellows rub together most of the time, so no dirt builds up. The resulting dark area can look like a crack when you turn the wheel hard to take a static photo such as this. And the valley isn't brightly lit with studio lighting when I do this.

2) As for the dented links, I like the wheel clearance theory at full compression. But the opposite side of the car was loaded (somewhat) and I don't remember the link-dent looking particularly close or lined-up.

actualsize says:

01:24 PM, 06/ 8/09

I now have my official answers from the home office:

1) The strut towers are made from die-cast aluminum.

2) The kink in the lower lateral links is there to produce a controlled collapse in the event of a lateral impact to reduce the chance of trashing the subframe and unibody.

charlesncharge says:

05:31 PM, 06/ 8/09

Dan,
Check this out: GT-R dissected - a lot more than I'd hope you'd ever dare:
Good shots of the aluminum shock towers -
(just scroll down a bit)
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=29989&st=0

cwc1 says:

06:41 PM, 06/ 8/09

Thanks for the follow up, Dan. Your theory was right on.

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