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2005 Volkswagen Jetta TDI: Parting Shots

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Do you remember May 7th, it was the day we said goodbye to our 2008 Subaru WRX STi with the first installment of Parting Shots. Today we say goodbye to our Long Term 2005 Volkswagen Jetta TDI. We had high hopes at the beginning. Gas was expensive, diesel was in the political discourse and biodiesel was gaining traction.

What a difference a year (and a crippling financial meltdown) makes.

Follow the jump for our final word on the 2005 Volkswagen Jetta TDI...

"What? We had a Jetta TDI?" Josh Jacquot, Senior Road Test Editor, Inside Line

"I got nothing. Except that the new one is a lot better!" Al Austria, Senior Vehicle Evaluation Engineer

"I drove it once. Never felt the need to go back for more." Scott Oldham, Inside Line Editor in Chief

"This Jetta is exactly the kind of car I would own: a little old, a little worn-in, a little smelly, great fuel economy, gets me where I need to go." Bryn Mackinnon, Senior Editor, Edmunds.com

"I owned this generation of Jetta, only a loaded VR6 model. Our TDI consequently brought back fond memories of a long-lost love, but as time wore on, it was like dating your ex-girlfriend's uglier, dull and poorly dressed sister who's kinda stinky. It just wasn't the same." James Riswick, Automotive Editor, Edmunds.com

"I avoided it and would pick the Smart over it. The Smart is just easier to drive in rush hour traffic since it's automatic, also it's obviously easier to park, has seat heaters, and I don't blend in as opposed to when I'm in the gray TDI." Caroline Pardilla, Deputy Managing Editor

"Not for everyone (you might say anyone) but I can attest to the presence of a rabid core of TDI lovers. They are a proud group, devoted to fuel economy over all else. I do like driving 600 miles without visiting a fuel pump." Phillip Reed, Senior Consumer Advice Editor.

"Our 2005 Jetta TDI reminds me just how good the 1998-2005 generation of the VW Jetta was to drive. But the biodiesel experiment was a hassle; unless you're going to do a full-on WVO conversion, regular diesel makes a lot more sense." Erin Riches, Senior Editor, Inside Line

"I actually like the car. For the money and mileage I thought it felt like a cut above the typical Japanese corolla/civic. It feels substantial not flimsy. Biggest prob to me was the peeling center armrest - not good." Brian Moody, Road Test Editor, Edmunds.com

"A clunky upshift in this car means you did something horribly wrong. One of the friendliest clutch/shifter tandems I've encountered." Josh Sadlier, Associate Editor, Edmunds.com

"The first day I drove this car the friend I picked up thought I'd been fired. I didn't like this generation of Jetta when new and I like it less now; The suspension and ride is all rubbery. But you put this engine / trans in a Corrado--or a Smart which, like Caroline, I picked instead of the Jetta frequently-- and I'm in."  Mike Magrath, Vehicle Testing Assistant.

This is your last chance, too, let's hear your final take on the 2005 Jetta TDI: Diesel in America, Used Cars, Biodiesel, alt-fuels; go ahead, get it off your chest. We're here to listen.

Mike Magrath, Vehicle Testing Assistant @ WHO CARES IT'S GONE! miles

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18 Comments

mohaji says:

09:39 PM, 06/ 4/09

...Is one of the head lights out on this Jetta?

How typically VW...

festiboi1 says:

10:15 PM, 06/ 4/09

This generation of Jetta IMO is the best one and represents what a Jerra really is. The new one is too bland, bloated, and Corollaesque. The '05 is quirky, yet restrained, compact, has excellent ergonomics, and (proven with the pic of the dark headlight) the usual VW gremlins.

It's disapointing to hear this engine/transmission combo isn't much fun, because otherwise I would choose this one anyday over the new one.

mikeolan says:

10:31 PM, 06/ 4/09

@festiboi1

I think the Jetta looked really good on the outside, but other than that this gen was complete crap.

I also get the feeling James Riswick, after learning he drove a VR6 Jetta, is the kind of guy who would hang around West 6th Street if he lived in Cleveland. ;-)

caheew says:

05:50 AM, 06/ 5/09

"What? We had a Jetta TDI?" Josh Jacquot, Senior Road Test Editor, Inside Line

BWAHAHHAHAH!! That is amazing stuff right there!

dougtheeng says:

06:12 AM, 06/ 5/09

I'm a big fan of this generation of Jetta, especially the TDI. VW's recent designs have been ho-hum, inside and out. I'm sure the biodiesel was a pain, but we learned that it is only marginally different from normal diesel - this is a valuable lesson, imo.

I'm sad to see it go, as I'm sure it will be replaced by a $95k that I will never drive and have little interest in :P

Prove me wrong, IL! Get a Soul/Forte/Gen Coupe/Accent/Fusion....etc

hola_dan says:

06:55 AM, 06/ 5/09

I will miss reading about this Jetta.

I too own a VR6, but after driving a 118d in Europe, I started thinking about getting a diesel.
A pro about this car is that it is now relatively cheap to acquire and to maintain, and compared to the VR6 gets excellent fuel economy.
A con is that it is softer, has less equipment, and is less fun to drive.

Overall a great test, you should replace the Jetta with another used car.

Other Suggestions:
Mk VI GTI (When available)
Audi A3 TDI (If / When available)
New Subaru Legacy

stingray454 says:

07:54 AM, 06/ 5/09

I own a diesel powered vehicle too ('99 Suburban), and I love it. At least in a full size SUV, diesel power is nearly ideal. I think it also works well for economy-minded cars like the Jetta. I'm not sure it would work well in a performance car, but I'm curious about the BMW 335d. Unfortunately they don't offer it with a manual transmission.

Now that diesel fuel prices are finally less than regular gasoline again, I'm even more pleased with my purchase decision (although there was a time when it was way more than premium gas that it looked like a foolish decision). Still, for the vast majority of the last century, diesel fuel was cheaper than gasoline, and I hope it stays that way. If it does, I think diesel power will play a major role in th U.S. in meeting the upcoming 35.5 MPG CAFE requirements.

actualsize says:

08:31 AM, 06/ 5/09

The diesel aspects of this car were perfectly agreeable to me: It had more than enough torque to get up to speed and play in traffic.

But, as a car, this TDI had the buoyant, squishy ride I've experienced in a long time. I don't think anything was wrong with it, that's simply the way the suspension and tires were tuned at the factory, with maybe a little looseness from age thrown on top. I never warmed up to it. Thankfully, the new one is loads better.

jriz says:

10:13 AM, 06/ 5/09

"I also get the feeling James Riswick, after learning he drove a VR6 Jetta, is the kind of guy who would hang around West 6th Street if he lived in Cleveland. ;-)"

If I was actually forced to live in (shiver) Cleveland, West 6th Street sounds like a good place to be. If it's anything like West Hollywood in Los Angeles (and I think that's where you were going), it must be the nicest, cleanest part of town. I'd have to go elsewhere for a bar, though.

James Riswick

joefrompa says:

11:40 AM, 06/ 5/09

Jriz - West Hollywood was very clean when i visited it back before I knew what it was. But I hated the way I was treated by the people. A piece of meat does not even begin to describe the feeling.

The girls I was with took me to a bar (club) there as a lark. That's just a whole 'nuther culture man.

Anyway....I've heard the VR6 is different and maybe the wheel/tire/suspension combo removed some of the squish, but I hated the way those jettas drove and loved the way they look. I think that described that generation VW to me....great on the surface, but not good for a long-term relationship.

mlh says:

12:26 PM, 06/ 5/09

jriz -- good answer.

joefrompa -- now you know how the majority of women on the planet feel.

joefrompa says:

01:26 PM, 06/ 5/09

Mlh - Don't know if you are a women or not.... I've definitely been around guys that act like that towards women, but most guys have either more respect or at least restraint. Whatever your tastes, theres little reason to treat others that way.

jriz says:

03:41 PM, 06/ 5/09

Clearly, Mr. Frompa is just a handsome man. He should take it as a compliment.

Mad_Science says:

04:52 PM, 06/ 5/09

How stereotypical for a Jetta post to devolve into a conversation about being hit on by gay dudes...

Anyway...sounds like there's a lot of hope for a mildly tuned TDI. If the biggest problems were a squishy ride and clutch/shifter, Neuspeed (et al) could probably help you out.

Of course, I'm one of those people who never evaluates cars "as is", but "as they could be with $1-4k in upgrades".

cwc1 says:

09:51 PM, 06/ 5/09

Regarding the burned out headlight as being yet another indication of poor VW quality - it happens! It's just a bulb and not integral with the car. Considering this car has those stupid DRLs which run the headlights all the time the car's on, and that 4 to 5 years have gone by, it's not surprising. It's one reason that I disable the DRLs on mine. What's the life of a headlight bulb anyway? Your mileage may vary.

Why not just go down to Autozone and replace the bulb? Problem solved.

firstwagon says:

01:45 PM, 06/ 6/09

I agree a burned out bulb shows nothing about VW quality. I am fairly sure VW does not make it's own bulbs. They will just buy them from the same suppliers as everyone else.

I don't think it's a good idea to disable a safety feature like DRL's just to get a little longer bulb life. My Grand Cherokee has DRLs and I haven't had a bulb go in the 7 years I've had it. I doubt they have much effect on the life of bulbs.

cwc1 says:

04:33 PM, 06/ 7/09

Well, I don't buy the notion that DRLs are a safety feature. However, there are certain times during the day when having them on could be useful, but all the day long is just plain unnecessary. If I want them on, I'll make the decision and turn them on when conditions warrant it. If every car were to have DRLs, there's nothing distinct about them, and thus, the original supposed safety advantage is lost. It's similar to the center high mount stoplight. Now that every car for sale in the U.S. has had to have them for the past 23 years, how many additional rear end collisions does it really prevent?

Another reason I didn't like DRLs is that it just about negates the flash to pass signal during the day, as it's then harder for already clueless drivers to discern that a vehicle is flashing its headlights so that they'll do the right thing and move over out of the fast lane.

mohaji says:

09:29 PM, 06/ 8/09

re: cwc1

You don't have to BUY "the notion that DRLs are a safety feature".
It's statistically PROVEN as a safety feature all over the world where it is mandated.

You can look it up.

Your argument that VW's light bulb burning out due to DRL is truly ignorant. There are literally millions of cars just north of the border in Canada where DRLs are required, and literally millions of Honda's, Toyota's, Hyundai's, Nissan's, Chrysler's and Ford's don't have this problem of bulbs burning out so frequently. Number of recent VW's with burnt out bulbs are totally out of proportion to ALL OTHER MAKES of cars.

I grant you that VW's have the solid build, heft and feel, but electric components' quality in VW's(and Audis) just don't measure up to its contemporaries.

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