2009 Dodge Challenger: More on the Great Pipe Debate

everyone's called lexus out for the IS-F's exhausts but they probably had some good reasons for doing them that way. bmw must agree since your 750i's tips aren't connected either.

these cars have their exhaust tips poking out of the bumper so, for one, you don't get unsightly black exhaust drippage running down the back of your car. also, maybe fender-bender repair costs are lighter if the exhaust tips are separate from the mufflers.

poser!

just like the IS-F.

All those jap and germ cars are posers. These guys don't understand the point of nice chrome tips, they thinks its just bling.

Its because most people that buy those jap/germ type of cars are not true car guys, but uptight low self-esteem short people and because of there shortcomings need to let everyone know they can spend $50,000 for a glorified Toyota Corolla. So they dont know the difference between true pipes and some chrome tube glued to the car. I think they sell those chrome tubes at Auto Zone..

If I'm not mistaken, don't the IS-F pipes dump towards the ground, and those exhaust pipes are just completely superficial?

I like how Dodge made cutouts for my exhaust tips (though I don't own an Challenger). It looks better than my '99 Z28's ugly Nascar rectangular exhaust pipes that I replaced with a Corsa exhaust within days.

I understand the advantages to having non-attached tips for the collision-friendliness and cleanliness issues raised above, but proper execution is key. The IS-F's finishers just look absolutely ridiculous. They put FOUR on! Four that are clearly fake. They went beyond functionality and into the dark land of cheesy bling. The Ferrari California is also cheesy, but slightly less so, with the R8 being the best of these three examples. The Camaro also does it very well, with a simple chrome ring around the opening in the rear fascia.

"All those jap and germ cars are posers."

I think you're forgetting the fact the challenger has fake hood scoops:
http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/2009/04/2009-dodge-challenger-some-details-are-better-than-others.html#comments

"Its because most people that buy those jap/germ type of cars are not true car guys, but uptight low self-esteem short people.."

How old are you?

Well, I guess American cars are posers too, because I believe there was a Cadillac Deville? in the '90s that wanted the 4 exhaust tip look, so they put two fake ones on the left side. It's just two chrome tubes with nothing behind them, and you can see straight through them if you crouch down. They didn't even bother putting exhaust components anywhere near the tips. Nowadays, it seems like almost every manufacturer does it, but some with more class.

The IS-F, R8 and Ferrari California all have the exhaust tips integrated in the bumper. The Challenger has them below the bumper level so its easier just to have them connected rather than going through the whole process of integrating them in the bodywork. Its not exactly brillaint engineering.

"All those jap and germ cars are posers. These guys don't understand the point of nice chrome tips, they thinks its just bling."

The Challenger is the poser with a two ton body, truck engine and a girly handbrake. Can anyone even impress chicks with this junk? Your neighbour probably has better luck with his Prius.

"Its because most people that buy those jap/germ type of cars are not true car guys, but uptight low self-esteem short people and because of there shortcomings need to let everyone know they can spend $50,000 for a glorified Toyota Corolla."

People like you need to stick with domestics. Any car more sophisticated than a toaster obviously befuddles you lot.

"I was glad to see Dodge get this simple detail done right."

Ha! Could Chrysis afford to do otherwise?

Typical Chrysler. I see disaster coming from that design. Didn't anyone notice where the muffler is? Get that thing hot and you'll have some nicely warped bumper wrap-arounds. Fix It Again Tony should be a welcomed gamble for Chrysler. Maybe they'll learn how to actually design cars... and maybe they'll actually last longer than 3 years.

The Audi design doesn't bother me too much, but the Lexus one looks sort of cheap imo. Nice to see Dodge did it right.

"How old are you?"

He's probably slightly older than ACE47

Lexus has a similar exhaust design on the LS460. When you look directly at the rear of the car it looks ridiculous. Nissan also has some terrible exhaust tips that look like afterthoughts. On Nissans the large finishers overlap the rusty tailpipe. When you look at the back of a Murano or Maxima you can see how they dont have a precise fit between the pipe and chrome tip. They merely slide the finished over top of the pipe and the two are concentric.

The heat from the exhaustwould likely melt plastic rear bumpers which is why Lexus and Audi have that unfinished, disconnected look.

the scoops on the srt8s are functional, at least they are on mine.

I ditched the stock exhaust in favor of the mbrp t304 stainless unit as well. 40-50 pounds lighter, sounds better, looks better.

Does it really matter where the tip is connected? They both have the "real" tailpipe in the middle.

My father's '02 Deville has two true tailpipes connected to two mufflers, one on each side. There is a fake beside the real pipe, but all four have crud at the bottom. Both fakes and reals are connected to the tailpipe.

The exhaust tips on this car are about double the size of the actual exhaust pipes themselves and have a completely different shape. This is no doubt done purely for style, not function.

Based on some of the comments in this thread, how would this NOT be considered "fake" and/or "poser" then? The mere fact that they're simply attached to the [standard-diameter] exhaust pipe? They're there to make the car look more badass but actually add nothing functionally, just like the detached finishers.

OOH, the wit of 14ullofshi87 is scary. Aftermarket tips are reason enough for anyone to forego a Nissan for a POS domestic.

Like I said, people like you need to stick with domestics. Any car more sophisticated than a toaster obviously befuddles you lot.

BTW, I saw an interesting sight this morning. An Aura was pulled up on the side of the road with its hood open and smoke bellowing from the engine. A dorky skinny punk with a mullet hairdo, tight jeans, earrings and a Domestic Roks tattoo on his arm was furiously sending messages in his iphone beside it. Wasn't you by any chance, was it?

Oh and hows GM doing? I heard they will be filing for bankruptcy next week. Guess you'll be out of a job then.

What was ever wrong with the exhaust pipes exiting just beneath the bodywork where you could see a hint of their presence but also didn't have to look hard to confirm if you were curious whether the car had a dual exhaust? And when the weather was cold, you could also see the warmer exhaust exiting into the cold air from both sides, and you'd know, Yep, it has duals!

Instead now, do they have to be sticking all the way through the bumper as if to say, "Hey, look at me! I have dual (or quad) exhaust pipes!"?

I just hope all you foreign car guys are blogging from some other country.

Sorry if I offended anybody but "the truth hurts ladies"

Audi-glorified VW Bug

Lexus-glorified Toyota-"Boring"

Challenger=American muscle at it finest and not trying to be anything else like those poser jap/germ cars.

And yes always "An American Icon!!"

People love my car, they tell me everyday!!
This baby is a STAR!!!!!!

Those tips look VERY similar to the ones on my 1970 Corvette. I always liked the look of the big square tips, especially from the side and looking down. They used to call them cowbell tips. And I think only the Challenger and the Corvette had them back them.

Challenger=domestic crap.