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2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR: Cruise Nazi

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I like the quicker shifts, sharper throttle response and increased engine braking of our long-term 2008 Mitsubishi Evo MR's "Sport" transmission mode. Sometimes I switch the cruise control on, too.

But Mitsubishi decided that setting the cruise in Sport mode is an unthinkable proposition--when in Sport mode, the cruise control's "set" button goes all limp and ineffectual. You must demote the transmission to "Normal" for the cruise to function.

I can see some logic in this when the transmission is in the full-auto "Drive" gate. Sport mode holds gears like a champ. At freeway speeds, it won't upshift past fourth gear. Engaging the cruise like this would decimate fuel economy.

So what if you pop the selector into the fully manual gate and row your own? Is this the secret sauce that allows Sport and cruise to get along with each other? Nope.

No cruise for you!

Jason Kavanagh, Engineering Editor @ 9,855 miles.

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23 Comments

felonious says:

10:03 AM, 01/15/09

I'm sorry, but I find Mitsubishi's requirement to be perfectly reasonable.

pookgai says:

10:10 AM, 01/15/09

This post is terrible. Why would you want to put the sport mode and CC together? Do you really need sharper throttle response in CC?

And are you THAT lazy to disengage the CC and move the shifter from Normal to Sport mode when you do want to row your own gears?

greenpony says:

10:42 AM, 01/15/09

Buy a Ford. You just have to deal with P R N D and L. And, if so equipped, you can use your cruise too.

As a note, my cruise control only works in top gear.

dougtheeng says:

10:50 AM, 01/15/09

Too much electronic control is a bad thing. As long you don't break things, I think you should be able to cruise as you like.

cx7lover says:

11:03 AM, 01/15/09

Cruising at a constant high RPM is really good for the drivetrain I hear.

cheslin says:

01:27 PM, 01/15/09

Ha, cruise control even works in second through fifth gears in my 5-speed stick ancient off-roader Nissan Pathfinder, so long as I'm going over 30. But it will keep the engine wound up in second at 35 if I want it to.

MS3lvr92 says:

02:52 PM, 01/15/09

"I'm sorry, but I find Mitsubishi's requirement to be perfectly reasonable."

-Agreed. What do you really need sport mode for when you're cruising down the interstate?

pengwin says:

03:12 PM, 01/15/09

wait a second....if you're cruising then why is there a need for sharp throttle response...don't you maintain the same speed anyways..

slickersdrip says:

03:53 PM, 01/15/09

cx7lover-

I've heard the same thing a lot. It's why the domestic automakers were wise to keep 4 speed automatics for so long.

jkavanagh says:

04:17 PM, 01/15/09

Apparently I must be crazy for wanting to have Sport mode active in between the times I have the cruise engaged.

Sport is practically my default transmission calibration--nine times out of ten, I toggle to Sport before I drive the MR out of any parking stall.

So it makes more sense for me to have to click from Sport to Normal, engage the cruise, and then click back to Sport every time the cruise is disabled? Seriously?

waevox says:

05:04 PM, 01/15/09

I'm starting to draw a correlation between the IL team's driving habits and the really bad mpg numbers and short tire life of the fleet cars.

You guys wouldn't be hiring, would you? =)

pengwin says:

08:07 PM, 01/15/09

Well all we're saying is if you have cruise control on then obviously you want to be able to maintain your speed for a prolonged time so your foot can rest. This is a very detached way to drive. Sport mode is an engaging way to drive. The two do not mix. Also...if you have cruise on why do you need to accelerate to pass. I thought the idea was to cruise at a constant speed?

huyracing says:

10:01 PM, 01/15/09

VW's DSG has no problems with you running SPORT and Cruise Control... nor do they have problems with brake overlap or anything you complain about in the EVO.

stovt001 says:

10:10 PM, 01/15/09

"It's why the domestic automakers were wise to keep 4 speed automatics for so long."

And Toyota still using 4 speeds all over the place is ignored because...? Oh that's right, anything Toyota does is perfectly correct, but even if the domestic manufacturers do the same thing or do better, it must be wrong simply because they're the domestic manufacturers and we must not think about such things, just mindlessly bash them and praise Toyota.

jkavanagh says:

09:04 AM, 01/16/09

Clearly, Sport/Normal doesn't matter when the cruise is set. Where I want Sport is for the periods between cruises.

On any given commute, its cruise on, cruise off, downshift, upshift, cruise, downshiftdownshiftdownshift, upshiftupshift, cruise..... etc. I have to be in Normal for all of this? Why?

aspade says:

09:05 AM, 01/16/09

Toyota still uses 4 speeds over the place? No, they still use 4 speeds in penalty box economy cars that sell for 16K. You won't find a 4 speed in a midmarket vehicle since 2005.

Meanwhile, over at GM it's 2009 and look at the NOT-ECONOBOX vehicles still stuck with 4 speeds.

Regular and extended cab fullsize trucks.

All Colorados. The Colorado-based H3.

All Impalas, their best selling car.

Most 4 cylinder Malibus, nearly all Pontiac G6s.

All Buick cars.

The Cadillac DTS

The Trailblazer/Envoy.

milt721 says:

09:09 AM, 01/16/09

Agreed aspade. The only Toyota model not availalbe with a 5-speed or 6-speed automatic is the Yaris.

athakur999 says:

11:04 AM, 01/16/09

If I understand you right, what I think you really want is the transmission to automatically switch to "Normal" mode when you engage cruise control and then switch back to "Sport" automatically if the cruise control is cancelled? As opposed to the current behaviour where you can't engage cruise control at all when the transmission is in "Sport" mode.

If so, this sounds like a sensible request to me.

felonious says:

11:30 AM, 01/16/09

Jason, from that description, it sounds like you're abusing/mis-using cruise control. In my own experience, if I have to keep switching it off, I'm just going to leave it off and drive normally. That's a good indication that there's too much traffic for non-adaptive cruise control, creating a dangerous situation.

Cruise control (for me) is only for those times when (a) freeway traffic is very light and (b) I don't feel like having my right foot on the accelerator. Those times are rare. :/

stovt001 says:

07:26 PM, 01/16/09

Aspade, you're right. We definitely have to ignore the Rav4. I mean, it is a mid-market vehicle running $20,000+ and the 4 cyl model comes with a 4 speed, so of course we'll all have to forget about that, because inconvenient facts should never stand in the way of import fanboys talking about how awful the domestics are.

slickersdrip says:

08:02 PM, 01/16/09

Stov-- I was just making a cheap joke. My mom's Trailblazer SS (2007) has a 4 speed auto. I'm definitely not an import fanboy and only buy domestic cars, as my parents both have Chevy's and I have a Dodge.

firstwagon says:

10:31 AM, 01/17/09

I'll bet 9 out of 10 drivers could not tell by driving whether a car has a 4, 5 or 6 speed automatic.

4 speeds do not necessary rev higher on the highway, that will depend on the gear ratios choosen not the number of gears.

For the average driver you see on the road, a 4 speed is just fine. Even preferable if you plan on keeping a car a long time and may require a rebuilt transmission someday.

Anything over a 5 speed is likely more marketing and bragging rights then it is any real advantage.

akilez68 says:

06:35 AM, 01/19/09

CRUISE CONTROL on my regular Lancer
works on 2nd,3rd, 4th and 5th gear.


Sport mode and Cruise Control I never experience my friend used Cruise Control on Sport Mode.

Why on earth you want to use Cruise Control on Sport mode it doesn't make any sense.

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