I like our Subaru a lot. I love the sound of the boxer engine, the well appointed interior, and the rush of power you get from the turbo. The only think I don't like is that from a red light start, the back really hunkers down when you mash the gas. I thought the suspension was stiffer than that.
Scott Jacobs, Senior Photographer

coletrickle says:
11:03 AM, 10/ 1/08
Did you just refer to the interior of the STI as "well appointed"?
joefrompa says:
11:26 AM, 10/ 1/08
He did. The only excuse for that statement, to me, can be the seats, steering wheel, and shifter. Otherwise, it's all 15k below the car's price point.
Joe
sbcooke says:
11:52 AM, 10/ 1/08
Speaking of hunkering down when mashing the gas...I was reading about the STI last night that people have an issue with the 2008 STI overheating at the track. Edmunds doesn't seem to have anything about that. I was hoping to take mine to the track later in the fall or in the spring. If I have to pull off every 5-7 minutes at full throttle...it seems like a waste of the $$$ to take it there.
opfreakx says:
01:14 PM, 10/ 1/08
just test drove the baby impreza ('frist' time driving a stick). And I know people have issues with the boxer sound but I really liked it, essplically at start up. The clutch was much lighter then the jeep I learned to drive on.
might end up with a 5 door in a few weeks. then swap the suspension to the new wrx. I'd like the rex, but I'm also senseble, and dont went to spend the extra money for the turbo + turbo gas.
compliance says:
02:29 PM, 10/ 1/08
No one with a remote interest in cars should own a base non-turbo Impreza, opfreakx. I'd stretch till I got into a Civic Si, or settle for a Mazda 3 or something.
slickersdrip says:
02:40 PM, 10/ 1/08
The weight gets shifted heavily to the back in my SRT-4, too. It's cool because it contributes to the extreme torque steer and has made me invest ~$500 to get rid of wheel hop.
stovt001 says:
03:23 PM, 10/ 1/08
Compliance, I don't think you could say you can stretch for an Si or Settle for a Speed3. They're both around the same price and I consider the Speed a much better car.
I love how my 1970 Olds squats under hard acceleration off the line. It makes it seem faster/more powerful than it really is. However, there is a huge difference between what you expect from a 1970 Olds and what you expect from an STi.
compliance says:
03:32 PM, 10/ 1/08
I meant a regular Mazda 3 to match the price of a base Impreza. They're about the same right? I didn't look any prices up. If he can hit $20k that should get an Si though.
subytrojan says:
05:39 PM, 10/ 1/08
Go Josh (Jacquot - pictured), go!!! :o)
The transfer of weight to the back may (:shrug:) provide the rear tires with more traction when accelerating. :o)
subytrojan says:
05:41 PM, 10/ 1/08
sbcooke, I haven't read or heard anything about 2008 STIs overheating at the track. NASIOC.com and iwsti.com are the best places to look for information on your car. Thanks for the add on CarSpace, too! :o)
opfreakx says:
05:55 AM, 10/ 2/08
compliance
- I drove both a 2.3l mazda3 wagon, and a base imperza. The both drove very similar. And I felt more cramped in the mazda3. My knee kept hitting the center console.
Power wise, both felt similar, its 170hp vs 170hp, awd vs fwd.
I haven't driven the honda, but its now 30ft/lbs of torque, and its not a wagon. i might test drive it, just to see how it feels.
also drove a vibe gt/matrix xrs, roomiest feeling of the bunch, but also drove big.
actualsize says:
06:39 AM, 10/ 2/08
Give me the WRX STi's more compliant setup over the kidney-jolting Evo X MR any day. And the tight-fitting side bolsters in the MR seats compound the problem—-I feel like I’ve gone ten rounds after ten miles. I like driving the Evo X a lot when I'm in the right mood, but I couldn't own one: I don't like peeing blood.
The above doesn't apply for track work--the Evo X MR would be my hands-down choice. But, unlike some motorcycle commercials I could name, I live on a cul-de-sac, not a racetrack.
felonious says:
06:48 AM, 10/ 2/08
I agree with SubyTrojan. The squat is probably intentional, to help with traction while accelerating. Amateur drag racers actually mod their cars to get this effect.
skeld says:
06:54 AM, 10/ 2/08
Wouldn't you lose some of the advantage of AWD with too much rearward weight transfer?
kurtamaxxxguy says:
07:32 AM, 10/ 2/08
Given Subaru revamped the '09 WRX to enthusiast satisfaction, perhaps Subaru USA will do same for '09 STI?
If Edmunds has budget, why not take your STI to Cobb Tuning, replace springs and shocks and tires, rechip engine, add short throw to Shifter? If so, Plz Let us how the result works as a daily driver?
rsholland says:
09:16 AM, 10/ 2/08
"Give me the WRX STi's more compliant setup over the kidney-jolting Evo X MR any day. And the tight-fitting side bolsters in the MR seats compound the problem—-I feel like I’ve gone ten rounds after ten miles. I like driving the Evo X a lot when I'm in the right mood, but I couldn't own one: I don't like peeing blood.
The above doesn't apply for track work--the Evo X MR would be my hands-down choice. But, unlike some motorcycle commercials I could name, I live on a cul-de-sac, not a racetrack."
BINGO! I couldn't have said it better. The STI is a much, MUCH better daily driver than the EVO.
opfreakx says:
01:41 PM, 10/ 2/08
skeld as long as the squat doesn't cause the tires to break, it won't take away anything from awd.
if for example the sqaut would cause too much weight to be transferred to the rear, and the front tires started spining, then it would be tuned wrong.
kurtamaxxxguy says:
02:45 PM, 10/ 2/08
Perhaps Edmunds IL folks might want to cut the STI test short in favor of the 2009 WRX because of these magic words:
Track_Tuned_Suspension
There did not seem to be much squat or roll of this vehicle in the Subaru web site videos.
actualsize says:
06:50 AM, 10/ 3/08
And you can trust car company videos and photos because car makers never ever install short springs for photos so their baby appears to sit lower in the brochure.
And they never put 1/2 inch wheel spacers on all of their cars at the Paris auto show to make it appear that the tires fill the wheel wells much more than they really do. http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightline/2006/09/paris-auto-show-2007-kia-opirus--amanti.html
They never do stuff like that.
sabastian says:
06:57 AM, 10/ 3/08
opfreak, I would really recommend giving the Si a tryout. In the real world, it should deliver better fuel economy than than the Impreza while delivering a much more rewarding experience than the Mazda 3 (I've driven both.). Furthermore, the sedan version feels more spacious in the back than the 3, and it also has quite a big trunk.
opfreakx says:
02:02 PM, 10/ 4/08
Sabastian, might try it out. The subby is now off my list, the price I wanted to get, and the one they offered were too far off, and the dealer wouldn't even come down off his price. They did sell one car today. however I was the only other person at the dealer, they had 4 salesmen and at least 3 higher up guys sitting around, while my guy fumbled with the price.