With all of the hubbub surrounding the recent repairs on our long term 2009 Nissan GT-R we thought we'd bring things back around and focus on the point of the GT-R: going fast.
We ran our GT-R (our car purchased from a dealership, not a press vehicle) through all of our normal performance tests, 0-60, 1/4-mile, 60-0, slalom and skidpad.
Follow the link for the full details.
Acceleration:
0-30: 1.5
0-45: 2.6
0-60: 3.9
0-60 with rollout ( read our How We Test article for more on rollout): 3.5
0-75: 5.5
1/4-mile: 12.0 @ 114.7
Comments: "Seems like both the driver and the car are working properly, but this isn't as quick as we've seen in the past. Launch is good, but 60 and 1/4 (times) are off slightly. Got noticeably slower the more we ran it. Quit at 4 runs."
Braking:
60-0: 108 feet
30-0: 28 feet
Comments: "Again, everything feels to spec, yet 108 is a long way from previous 98 ft best."
Slalom: 73.6 mph
Comments: "Suddenly the GT-R feels 400-lbs lighter in the slalom. The biggest challenge is not hitting cones (especially on the driver's right side). Discovered a counter intuitive trait this time: if it understeers, wood the throttle and let the computers take care of it."
Skidpad: .91 G
Comments: "All setting on full attack but it understeered its way to a .091G. Seems "off" to me."
Just to save you the time here are the links to our last GT-R test and one to the last test of a Corvette Z06 (which happened to be stonking fast and the quickest one we've ever tested).
Oh, about that 27.4 mpg thing. On the same day as this test I was charged with escorting a test car, ferried by trailer, on a 250+ mile trek. We were limited to Trucks with Trailer speed limits (which were occasionally ignored by my right foot) on California's 5 highway. The digital display read 29.5, but our calculations had it a bit lower; 27.4. Beats my best Z06 mileage (25.5) by a hair.
Mike Magrath, Vehicle Testing Assistant @ 5,000 miles
cjasis says:
10:28 AM, 09/26/08
So the GT-R must be "re-broken in" if you did instrumented testing?
joefrompa says:
10:28 AM, 09/26/08
Mike,
Your test numbers are saying it took like than a tenth of a second to accelerate 15 mph from 45-60, but then took 1.6 seconds to accelerate the next 15mph from 60-75.
Something seems off there.
Joe
srlracing says:
10:34 AM, 09/26/08
How long are the clutch(es) going to last when you guys keep using the launch mode? I remember early transmissions of this type would only last 1-3 launches at full throttle from idle let along what the GT-R does.
lazyhater says:
10:40 AM, 09/26/08
"Got noticeably slower the more we ran it. Quit at 4 runs."
Can you elaborate more on this?
carmizvi says:
10:40 AM, 09/26/08
I think that $13,000 transaxle may be influencing the numbers a little.
lazyhater says:
10:44 AM, 09/26/08
"wood" the throttle........
1st time I heard that, it is funny!
jasond52 says:
11:15 AM, 09/26/08
"Discovered a country intuitive trait..."
As opposed to an urban trait?
stingray454 says:
11:15 AM, 09/26/08
"Just to save you the time here are the links to our last GT-R test and one to the last test of a Corvette Z06 (which happened to be stonking fast and the quickest one we've ever tested)."
The only thing that was "stonking fast" about that Z06 beyond the ordinary was its trap speed in the 1/4 - 123 mph. Most tests I've read have it at 121 mph. Your ET's of 11.7 are spot on what most other publications got from the Z06 too. 11.7 is the Z06's 1/4 mile number - you didn't have a ringer there. Actually your 0-60 time of 3.9 is a slight bit off - most publications get 3.7.
stingray454 says:
11:17 AM, 09/26/08
""Got noticeably slower the more we ran it. Quit at 4 runs."
Can you elaborate more on this?"
Just an educated guess, but I'll bet it was intercooler heat soak - a problem with most forced induction cars on repeated full throttle trips. The intake air post intercooler got hotter and hotter each run = less horsepower.
boxermike says:
11:44 AM, 09/26/08
stingray,
Using different publications numbers is apples to bacon. This is the quickest Z06 we've ever tested by a good deal.
corollasman says:
12:30 PM, 09/26/08
Its good to see the GT-R back on the road doing what it was built for.
desmolicious says:
01:53 PM, 09/26/08
Amazing how this production vehicle away from the confines of the mfg performs significantly worse.
Let's see how this baby works after 20K miles. Or driving it hard (canyon roads)on a 100 degree day...
stovt001 says:
11:24 PM, 09/26/08
So 0-60 is 3.9 seconds, or 3.5 seconds with rollout. The article on how you test cars indicates that you clearly prefer times without rollout and consider them to be a better representation of what the car can do. Then why use the rollout number in the title? Oh yes, that's right, this is the GT-R and this is GT-RLine.
chavis10 says:
07:37 AM, 09/29/08
I don't understand how Edmunds has always had "slow" Z06s whenever everybody else who's tested it has had consistent mid 3 second cars. Aren't these test vehicles ususally share amongst the auto mags? Either way, the Z06 sounds infinitly better than the Hoover model GT-R. Or maybe it sounds more like a Dyson...??
stingray454 says:
08:39 AM, 09/29/08
"By boxermike on September 26, 2008 11:44 AM
stingray,
Using different publications numbers is apples to bacon. This is the quickest Z06 we've ever tested by a good deal. "
All I'm saying is take the average 1/4 mile times and trap speed of all the major automotive publications for the Z06, and it'll come out to 11.7 @ 121 mph.
Are all those publications wrong, and Edmunds (and Consumer Reports) right? I highly doubt it.
1487 says:
07:20 AM, 09/30/08
"Using different publications numbers is apples to bacon. "
Why? all the magazines use the same type of equipment to record acceleration times. The Z06 has generally been clocked at 3.4 to 3.7secs to 60mph. IL was the only publication that seemed to have trouble cracking 4 secs. I dont get why Edmunds believes it's testing procedures are so much more advanced than those used by the print magazines.
Most GTRs tested recently have been slower than the initial cars. C&D tested four cars with every one being slower than the previous car.
1487 says:
08:37 AM, 09/30/08
the Z06 really took it to the GTR on the skidpad and in the 1/4 mile in terms of trap speed.
sjava says:
09:47 AM, 09/30/08
http://carsguide.news.com.au/site/motoring-news/story/porsche_accuses_nissan_of_cheating_at_nurburgring/
Porsche thinks that 7:29 lap time is impossible to achieve with production spec GT-R. Hey Edmunds, why don't ship your GT-R to German and run it around Nurburgring so we can get a number we can trust from an independent tester.
1487 says:
10:13 AM, 09/30/08
I believe Porsche. I cant wait for an independent source to try and reproduce Nissan's results.
hondacura4 says:
02:36 PM, 09/30/08
Ive found the Z06's performance numbers to be much more consistent than the GTR. The GTRs numbers seem to be all over the map. Some are seriously fast and other are average vs the rest of the segment.
When reality sets in the GTR may launch better vs the Z06 due to superior AWD traction but the Z06 will reel it in everytime. Accelerate from a roll and the Z06 trumps the GTR and just about every other car in the segment although Ive seen various #'s for the F430 Scuderia and the Gallardo LP560 in the mid-high 120's. The Corvette ZR1 should trap in the low 130's......YIKES! How fast will these things get?
skeld says:
06:50 AM, 10/ 1/08
The Z06 is clearly the "faster" car when you look at weight and HP - 3150 or so and 505 NA HP vs. 3800 and 480 or whatever it is. Of course C&D I think it was did some dyno tests on 5 different GT-R's and found that 3 of them averaged about 520 at the crank, while 2 of them were slower for some reason. Still even if it is 520, 3150 vs. 3800 is a huge difference. That's why the Z06's trap speed is so much faster - the GT-R is winning on AWD and bad driving alone.
skeld says:
06:53 AM, 10/ 1/08
Oh yeah, and wasn't that 7:29 number supposedly done with the GT-R cranked up to about 600 HP? There's no way in hell that the stock (and they've been so inconsistent who knows what "stock" is) GT-R ran the Nurburgring only 3 seconds slower than the 625 HP, 3300 LB ZR-1.