For the second time in a week our long-term 2009 Nissan GT-R is back at Santa Monica Nissan to fix a problem with the car's evaporative emissions system. Atleast, we think it's a problem with the car's evaporative emissions system. The GT-R seems to be running great, but this warning light keeps showing itself sporadically. The first time it happened the dealer said it was the old loose gas cap problem.
Hopefully they have a real solution to the issue this time around. We'll let you know.
Scott Oldham, Inside Line Editor in Chief @ 4,993 miles
rtharak2 says:
11:38 AM, 08/25/08
You guys got a check engine light and didn't tighten the gas cap? Or was the gas cap actually broken?
blueguydotcom says:
12:18 PM, 08/25/08
I get a CEL on my Cooper once a month. I've gotten used to ignoring it as it will go off in a few days.
opfreak says:
12:22 PM, 08/25/08
^ahh the brilliant import engineering/quality control.
CEL's No biggie, plastic buttons, End of the world cost cutting.
oachalon says:
12:51 PM, 08/25/08
If this was the Saturn Aura blog we would have had 60 comments by now with people stating that the car is such a piece of crap.
This one could just be a bad gas cap. Why didnt they put the check gas cap code on this car?
toyota4life says:
01:25 PM, 08/25/08
"If this was the Saturn Aura blog we would have had 60 comments by now with people stating that the car is such a piece of crap."
Well,because Saturn's are recycled crap
dougtheeng says:
01:42 PM, 08/25/08
Its possible its not the fuel cap, lol.
tmanz says:
01:45 PM, 08/25/08
what do you expect for $73,000? You can't really think it would be more reliable than an American made car that costs $25,000?
Bring back the reliable Ferrari!!
Seriously, the center display can tell you what each tire is thinking and how close you currently are to the moon but it can't display a bit of information about the big orange malfunction light in the tach?
billt9 says:
01:47 PM, 08/25/08
Don't all Nissan models start their design cycle with an ill designed gas cap?
Nissan's just maintaining their tradition.
cjasis says:
04:43 PM, 08/25/08
If it is the gas cap, shame on you guys.
If it's not... shame on Nissan. Please let us know the result.
Dan Edmunds says:
05:37 PM, 08/25/08
Here is a recap (pun fully intended):
Incident #1, August 15--warning light came on 179 miles after last fill-up. EVAP leak code P0455 found. Gas seal cap cleaned and cap retightened by us. Code cleared using our own Scan Gauge.
Incident #2, August 20--warning light came on again. Car taken to dealer this time. Dealer not fully aware of incident #1, so they attribute it to loose gas cap (two for two tells me it wasn't.) They find and reset codes P0455 and P0456 and return the car to us.
Incident #3, August 24--warning light came on yet again. Car taken to dealer as described in this post. Now they are fully aware of the previous 2 incidents and are taking a deeper dive.
OK guys, the gas cap was NOT left loose three times by three drivers. It wasn't even loose the first time. Code P0455 refers to a "EVAP" leak, but the gas cap isn't the only potential source of such a code. The cap could be bad (but there is no obvious damage to the seal), or some other component in the Evaporative Emissions system could be faulty.
Whatever it is, the problem isn't affecting our GT-R's ability to haul butt one iota.
billt9 says:
06:05 PM, 08/25/08
Obviously this car is much inferior to the quality built Chevrolet Corvette. That car is built by true Kentuckians, just like Toyota Camrys are.
subytrojan says:
06:11 PM, 08/25/08
Thanks for the nice, informative comment, Dan! :thumbs up:
In your previous blog entry, I mentioned P0457 is usually the gas cap-specific CEL (at least it's the only one that comes to my little mind). It's interesting to see that the issue may indeed not be gas cap-related after all.
stovt001 says:
06:47 PM, 08/25/08
For the billionth time, my original post was deleted because the website said I was logged in but apparently I wasn't. Grr. Will this ever be fixed?
As Tmanz said, its odd that the computer screens will give you tons of trivial info, but can't tell you what the big warning light really means.
This type of problem clearly doesn't make the car a POS, yet this would be enough to have some people here call a car a POS if it happened on a domestic. Its not the editors who are biased here. I think the bias is mostly found in some of the commentators.
opfreak says:
08:53 PM, 08/25/08
aww cute, how the big guns (Dan Edmunds) come defend the nissian baby.
unlike some other cars that are sent out to pasture.
cjasis says:
09:00 PM, 08/25/08
Dan - thanks for the recap. This may not be affecting your use of the GT-R but I humbly submit that three return to dealer warnings would preclude a significant majority of new owners from doing just that. Moreover, the three related incidents in such short time shouldn't be glossed over as nothing. I know I would not be doing back flips over this.
1487 says:
06:41 AM, 08/26/08
If the issue doesnt affect the operation of the car its not critcial. At least that's what I said when other cars had issues that didnt affect driveability before I got straightened out by other posters. I was told that ANY issues are to be considered reliability problems and any car that had any issues within the first few months is a piece of under-engineered crap. Does that apply to the GT-R?
kurtamaxxxguy says:
07:32 AM, 08/26/08
Ahhh, these first year cars.
Then again, I'm driving a first year car - maybe the CEL will bite me too.
Dan Edmunds says:
01:12 PM, 08/26/08
Hold on there. I'm glossing over nothing. My comment about butt-hauling only serves to illustrate that the problem, whatever it is, hasn't affected observable performance. I'm not happy that the GT-R has been to the dealership twice over this.