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2008 Honda Accord EX-L V6: Wheel Worries.


Pictured is the right-front wheel of our long-term Honda Accord. Please note the wheel curbing near the top of the photo. While I'm not sure who did it, it's pretty clear how it happened. It's equally clear that it's going to happen again and again and again...
Why? No, not because we're careless drivers, but because of the wheel design. Check the second picture. Not only are these wheels really ugly, but the middle of the spoke bows out from the tire. Traditionally the tire is the first thing that would contact a curb -- some tires even have handy hard rubber guards at the widest spot to absorb such uh-ohs -- not here, it's wheel-first, baby!



Mike Magrath, Vehicle Testing Assistant @ 11,510 miles.

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25 Comments

louiswei says:

03:17 PM, 05/ 1/08

Gawd, what an idiotic design!

norsairius says:

03:29 PM, 05/ 1/08

what were they thinking? it's a small detail, but it matters. it surprises me that honda would allow that.

chavis10 says:

03:42 PM, 05/ 1/08

Unfortunately, many Honda wheel designs suffer from this design style. I distinctly remember the Accord Special Edition and EX V6 15" aluminum rims suffering from this design (94-98). Also, the I4 EX Coupe at a similar issue (98-02). Last genera

7driver says:

04:11 PM, 05/ 1/08

Maybe it has something to do with the positive wheel offsets common to FWD cars? I noticed those rubber tire guards are most effective on deep dish wheels usually found on RWD cars.

texases says:

06:35 PM, 05/ 1/08

Unfortunately, Honda's not the only one - see the recent blog on the M3's mirrors, and how they help avoid this. Some Audis also have wheels like this. Big problem with dubs....

estreka says:

06:42 PM, 05/ 1/08

7Driver is exactly right. All FWD cars has sizeable positive offsets. It's an unfortunate fact of life. Even some RWD cars come with positive offsets. A positive offset gives a tighter turning radius and allows the wheels to squeeze inside the wheel well.
 
AWDs also typically have positive offsets, but I'm not sure why.

billt9 says:

08:17 PM, 05/ 1/08

Darn. It's just terrible that cars get cosmetic blemishes when they are used for transportation.
 
Perhaps in the future, we can make all bugs on the road extinct, and all rocks and sand on the road vaporize 1" before it contacts the vehicle.

roar02ram says:

09:07 PM, 05/ 1/08

Honda has had that problem for a long time on numerous models.

johnmarco says:

09:35 PM, 05/ 1/08

Those wheels are definitely ugly, that's for sure. You need one of those curb feelers. Very stylish.

zoomzoom22 says:

10:52 PM, 05/ 1/08

ya, those wheels sure are ugly. They look exactly like the hubcaps on the Civic LX.
 
The Accord (and most of Honda in general) would benefit from some stylish alloys, a la Saturn Aura XR or 2009 Mazda 6.
 
Speaking of which, would you guys PLEASE add the latter to the LT fleet? Pretty please? It's an important car for Mazda!

tryan says:

03:29 AM, 05/ 2/08

Regardless of wheel design, I find this statement troubling:
 
"No, not because we're careless drivers, but because of the wheel design."
 
The cliche "A poor craftsman always blames his tools" comes to mind. This also smacks of the Tundra long term test, where the size of the vehicle was blamed for the carelessness of the driver.
 
Honda is certainly not the first manufacturer to offer OEM wheels that protrude slightly beyond the sidewall, and you can bet they certainly won't be the last. It might not be the most logical design, but that still does not relieve the driver of their responsibility.

dougtheeng says:

05:46 AM, 05/ 2/08

Those wheels are terrible looking. Why do so many companies have awful OEM rims?

1487 says:

06:18 AM, 05/ 2/08

these rims do resemble wheel covers but its not like Honda is known for daring wheel designs. If you have seen an Accord with wheel covers you will notice they have a similar design. In fact all of the Accord's wheels/wheel covers look similar which is strange. It makes it hard to tell which model you are seeing.

tshoe says:

07:05 AM, 05/ 2/08

The wheels on my A4 are very sensitive to scratching. It is a common issue with the Sport Package's 17" rims from 02-08. I like the look but I already had them re-finished once, and a couple could be done again...for around $50 each.
Back to the Accord, I don't think the wheels look as bad as others do. Honda's wheels look better than they use to in the 80s and 90s. Except for the Pilot could use some 18s-20s as an option...maybe on the 2009?

boxermike says:

09:30 AM, 05/ 2/08

tryan: Nice post, and I agree with your comment to a point. I imagine if this were my own car I would do that exactly once and then remember that they stick out and never do it again. But with some 20 drivers, there's a learning curve for each one that simply isn't there on other cars.
-mike

aspade says:

10:10 AM, 05/ 2/08

Form over function strikes again.

greenpony says:

10:15 AM, 05/ 2/08

At least it wasn't something pretty getting damaged.

bszeto says:

08:56 PM, 05/ 2/08

Hey all - don't the current-gen 330i/335i standard wheels look very similar?

banhugh says:

09:01 AM, 05/ 3/08

I agree with tryan. No matter how bad the wheel design is, the editors of a car testing webpage should expect that if you rub the wheels against the pavement you will probably get scratches on the rim. If you had a better rim design you would damage the tire sidewalls instead. Take your pick. In any case the poor parking competencies of the some stuff member would damage something, not the Honda engineers.

hdforever says:

02:24 PM, 05/ 3/08

EDMUNDS EDITORS=IDIOTS. PLEASE LEARN HOW TO DRIVE THE VEHICLES ENTRUSTED TO YOU. IT IS OBVIOUS TO US ALL THAT YOU ARE NOT THE ONES MAKING THE PAYMENTS OR ELSE YOU WOULD BE MORE CAREFUL. GOD HELP THE UNSUSPECTING BUYER OF EDMUNDS LONG TERM TEST CARS!

SubyTrojan says:

04:27 PM, 05/ 3/08

Please stop yelling (all caps). K thx buh bye.

hdforever says:

03:54 AM, 05/ 4/08

I was yelling for effect. That was apparantly lost on you though...sorry. By the way, what is with the "k thx buh bye" bit? Are you twelve or just a smart ass?

SubyTrojan says:

08:51 PM, 05/ 4/08

There's isn't any need to resort to name-calling (calling the editors idiots and me a smart a__) here. I'm sure you're much more intelligent than me. Take care and have a nice evening.

lemaster says:

01:24 PM, 06/18/08

I thought it was just me who hated the look of those wheels! Luckily, my mind keeps changing on a number of subjects (home ownership, marriage, etc...)so maybe they'll come to grow on me like that "bustle-butt" back end finally did. [Be gentle with me, I'm new here}

dnabooks says:

03:27 PM, 04/ 3/09

Hello everyone. Many thanks for the comments. I have a 2008 Accord EXL V-6 Coupe with the same wheels shown above. There are so many different styles of OEM wheels and after-market wheels that I think that one person's ugly is another person's nice looking. I don't absolutely "LOVE" the OEM wheels, but I like them ok. I haven't had a problem with the spokes getting scratched, but I have had the outer rim part of the wheel get scratched. I think it's due to the low-profile tires, the sidewall of the tires not being much wider (if at all) than the wheels, and that the design of the rim portion sticks out too far compared to the tire. I disagree that it's due to poor driving skills. I'm 58 years old and have been driving for 45 of those years. This includes Corvettes, BMW's, Mercedes Benz's, Hondas, Mazdas, and many others. I think this is a wheel design flaw FROM Honda. I love this car overall, but I think they owe me some OEM wheels that don't have this problem. Thanks, everyone, and take care.

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