I snagged our Toyota Tundra for the weekend in anticipation of picking up a new motorcycle. With its 6.5-foot bed, I figured the Tundra would be perfect for swallowing my new ride without having to drop the tailgate. I never got the chance. The deal fell though before I ever saw the bike in person, but I did notice something about the Tundra that made me think twice about using it again...
The adjustable tie-down loops dont feel quite as sturdy as they look. Pull hard enough and the rails theyre mounted on start to pull away from the bed. Our long-term Nissan Titan had a similar setup, but its tie downs were as sturdy as the loops that were permanently attached to the bed. I dont think this will keep me from using the Tundra when I eventually find another bike, but I was expecting sturdier construction for something thats designed as an anchor point.
Ed Hellwig, Senior Editor, Inside Line @ 13,682 miles
Categories: 2007 Toyota Tundra SR5 Double Cab
cah11705 says:
06:45 PM, 03/24/08
the excellent toyota build quality we have grown used to seeing.
does the silverado have these hooks also?
and if so are they sturdy?
daytona_500 says:
06:51 PM, 03/24/08
What kind of motorcycle?
brn says:
07:37 PM, 03/24/08
cah,
Ed referenced the tie downs in the Nissan. What else do you need? Don't you realize that American manufactures don't make trucks? That's a Japanese thing.
fst1 says:
08:03 PM, 03/24/08
Our Silverado doesn't have adjustable tie downs. It's a dealer-installed option only. I referenced the Nissan Titan because it was the first full-size truck to offer adjustable tie downs and they were well designed right from the start.
cx7lover says:
12:56 AM, 03/25/08
Well considering how weak the frame is, this is not a surprise.
opfreak says:
05:00 AM, 03/25/08
its a toyota, its perfect the way it is.
just remeber a good way to keep moving forward... without your load.
And does anyone find the new toyota mini van comerical (at the beach) a bit, well stupid.
roar02ram says:
08:14 AM, 03/25/08
These hooks are also too small.
lvranger says:
08:28 AM, 03/25/08
Ugh, first the CD player in MY Tundra craps out, now this. Toyota will forever be remembered for their appalling quality.
Seriously though, I messed around with the tie downs on a Tacoma and came away unimpressed.
chevy598 says:
09:23 AM, 03/25/08
I still have no idea why Toyota entered the full size truck market. It wasn't worth the quality hit. The domestics take big quality hits because their trucks are included in the brand averages. Full size trucks always have more problems than cars. Bigger parts and bigger problems. Toyota would have been better off just building their 7/8 truck that had car like quality numbers. Toyota will get it right eventually, but will never put up the quality numbers the previous Tundra had.
opfreak says:
10:13 AM, 03/25/08
toyota is cutting quality left and right as they get/got bigger. The problems of size followed them.
jr1m90 says:
05:37 PM, 03/25/08
Uhh, I hate to break the comment string (although I agree Toyota quality has slipped), but I see nothing in that video to worry me. The hooks move, but only when you apply a good deal of torque on them in the vertical axis. That's not too surprising considering how those parts are probably fastened to the side of the bed.
That being said, I'd probably stay on the safe side and use the integrated hooks for a new motorcycle.
billt9 says:
12:18 AM, 03/26/08
Can't you see the actual tie down piece is made of genuine metal of some sort??? Look! Its silvery and rough texture! It speaks strength with its metallic look!
The rails are black and hidden. Please do not look or touch that way.
rick8365 says:
06:53 AM, 03/26/08
I can say from comparing the current Tacoma and Frontier, that the bed tie downs aren't the only place that Toyota skimped. I imagine the same can be said about the the Tundra vs Titan. I think the days of Toyota over engineering / over building their vehicles is a thing of the past....unfortunately.
altimadude00 says:
07:11 AM, 03/26/08
I'd rather have the adjustable rails ugly and exposed, but secure and solid rather than good looking and hidden, and flimsy. Sometimes style gets in the way with functionality.
Isn't flexibility (and not this kind of flexibility) of the truck bed the reason why you buy a truck in the first place?
hondacura4 says:
05:31 PM, 03/26/08
"I think the days of Toyota over engineering / over building their vehicles is a thing of the past....unfortunately."
I do agree to an extent as the last Tundra Double Cab just had that signature quality feel the new one lacks. I wouldnt go as far to say to the new one is cheap feeling but the last generation definately had its advantages in that area.
The best built Toyotas Ive encountered are the 93-98 Supras and the Land Cruisers. Those things were built like tanks as they didnt give you the feeling of being "built to cost". They had that older Mercedes-Benz kind of build quality, just bank vault solid. The high quality materials and world class construction were evident as soon you entered.
olerascal says:
10:14 AM, 04/ 7/08
Blame it on the bedliner installer. He/She forgot to re-tighten the track after installing the liner. I just checked mine. They're fine as I expected.