Um, that's not good. The right front Bridgestone on our 2007 Infiniti G35 Sport has been curb crunched to the point of two large lacerations. For the record, it wasn't me. But I did check the car's tire pressures when I discovered the damage...
Since the tire is holding air and the G's 12 months in our fleet are quickly coming to a close, we'll probably just pretend those huge jagged slices of sidewall aren't out there flapping in the breeze. And when that doesn't work we'll Krazy Glue them back into place.
Scott Oldham, Inside Line Editor in Chief @ 19, 841 miles
estreka says:
05:26 PM, 03/24/08
Ahh super glue. Just like they did it at the Bridgestone factory.
huyracing says:
05:42 PM, 03/24/08
they'll be fine. bridgestone's seem like expensive tires for what they are, but the difference is that they use more material than cheaper tires do.
opfreak says:
06:37 PM, 03/24/08
ahh the joys of car un-ownership
desmolicious says:
09:05 PM, 03/24/08
Ahh, I see Edmunds still parks by braille.
Are there any cars/trucks that they haven't damaged in some way or another?
weezedog says:
06:15 AM, 03/25/08
Selling a car with a known safety hazard to an unsuspecting consumer is not an appropriate action for a well known and well respected company to take. That is potentially a life-threatening hazard, to both the edmunds staff and to the soon-to-be new owner, especially with the speeds and corner-carving that car will see.
I can't see the actul depth of the cuts that well, but any sidewall damage structurally weakens the tire, priming it for a blow-out.
Also I wonder what the potential legal liability would be if the tire blew out on the new owner and they found this blog stating you knew about the safety issue prior to the sale.
joefrompa says:
07:55 AM, 03/25/08
Hi Weeze,
There's that litigious attitude we know and love!
If a buyer buys a 10 year old car with cracked brake lines (known by the seller) and the brake lines explode on their second day of ownership, is that the seller's fault?
This is a very visible and obvious concern with the tire. If the buyer inspects the car at all (their responsibility) prior to buying, they will notice the slice. They can then ask for it to be repaired/replaced or buy it knowing they'll be replacing the tire(s).
Your assumption follows the same logic I have seem on some Subaru forums: A person buys a Subaru WRX STI or Legacy Spec.B. and, because it's an AWD Subaru, expects it to be wonderful in the snow.
They go out and have a near-death experience in the winter, and then say that the dealership should have notified them that the car's stock tires are unsuitable for driving on snow/ice.
At what point does owner/buyer responsibility get abdicated?
Joe
lvranger says:
09:07 AM, 03/25/08
"any sidewall damage structurally weakens the tire"
Not true. From what I can see in the picture the damage is purely cosmetic. Structural damage is usually indicated by a bulge but sometimes there is no way to tell.
Joe - Good luck getting people to take personal responsibility. There is always someone to blame/sue.
joefrompa says:
09:17 AM, 03/25/08
I'm working on it :)
Joe
P.s. For SubyTrojan, who trolls all comments (so I assume), we are T-minus 4 days :)
cruiserhead1 says:
09:50 AM, 03/25/08
many low profile tires have "rim protectors" molded into the sidewall.
The rubber flares out to help protect the wheel from curb rash. It is par for the course for the lip to start chunking as the tire gets older. It is not dangerous as it's a sacrificial rubber "V" whose purpose is to rub the curb before the rim does.
SubyTrojan says:
11:21 AM, 03/25/08
You assume correctly, Joe. :o) I'm looking forward to seeing the new LGT.
joefrompa says:
12:30 PM, 03/25/08
OT:
Subie, I was in Rye, NY this weekend at my in-laws 4th floor co-op. We heard a loud crash and looked outside...looked like someone had hit their 07 Impreza Wagon.
Ran downstairs with a camera...a ~00 Subaru Outback had slammed into the Impreza so hard the outback flipped itself onto the roof. There was an elderly couple inside hanging from their seatbelts. They said they were fine and in fact did walk out into an ambulance (without even a visible cut on them from all their glass shattering).
It was interesting to have that happen (what a crazy event!) 1 week prior to making a purchase of a vehicle built on the same platform :)
/End OT random story
Joe
SubyTrojan says:
12:57 PM, 03/25/08
This is what you're getting yourself into, Joe. :o)
http://www.subarudrive.com/Sum06_WhatsInside.htm
boxermike says:
09:46 AM, 03/26/08
"many low profile tires have "rim protectors" molded into the sidewall.
The rubber flares out to help protect the wheel from curb rash. It is par for the course for the lip to start chunking as the tire gets older. It is not dangerous as it's a sacrificial rubber "V" whose purpose is to rub the curb before the rim does."
Correct, and that's all that is damaged here. The tire shop assured us the tire was structurally sound for continued use, and for track testing.
-mike
bimmerjay says:
10:36 AM, 03/26/08
"Correct, and that's all that is damaged here. The tire shop assured us the tire was structurally sound for continued use, and for track testing."
I don't know guys, I would suggest waiting for a few other posters to provide some additional conjecture and expert opinions from their neighbor's brother who works at Pep Boys before you make your final call on this one.
joefrompa says:
07:19 AM, 03/27/08
You should see the bubble in my sidewall that I'm driving on right now...looks like a gigantic zit. The pothole I hit felt like they have left a manhole cover off....
Due to life circumstances, I haven't had a chance to replace the tires. And I've had to put ~350-400 miles on it so far.
It FEELs pretty darn unsafe. I just tell myself that there are tons of people driving around with bubbles on their inside sidewall, unaware. That's how I sleep at night (ok, I don't sleep).
Soon I'll get my new tires, which are 5 pounds heavier per tire. That should fight off those damn PA potholes! (Darn you 611-to-PA-turnpike on-ramp!)
Joe