1984 Ferrari 308 or 2008 Nissan GT-R

Honestly, I like the lines of the Ferrari far more than the hard cut lines of the GT-R. I also like shifting a transmission by moving from one gate to the next, even if it costs me a bit of performance in the end. If I wanted something to make a quick buck on (or couple thousand for that matter), I'd nab the GT-R. But, in all reality I'd take the 308.

Looking forward to it, Scott! Thanks!

I'll take the Ferrari. With the money I save I can buy a playstation 3, a nice TV and know what it's like to drive the GTR from that. I like to steer and shift for myself in a performance car thank you.

As much 'better' as the GTR is than the 308, I gotta wonder how much you could ever use it. Wind in out, and you'll be doing 100, no problem, except the ticket(s). I imagine you have to wind out the 308 a bit to stay ahead of LA traffic, something that would be quite enjoyable.

I'd take the GT-R anyday! Obviously, I know I'll never own one but a girl can dream, can't she? Besides, the Ferrari isn't too hot. :p

You kiddin' me? GTR in a heartbeat!

Check out the GT-R and 308's rear lights.

Oh, GT-R without a second thought. As much as I enjoy articles on the 308, there's just no comparison. I'm not convinced I like the V35 over the R33, but I'd be hard pressed to choose even the great 400R over the GT-R.

No contest, GT-R all the way. Unless you're comparing the Ferrari to a smart car, mini cooper or beetle, i'll take the other car every time.

V35? I thought the current GT-R is the R35, estreka.
 
daytona_500, how'd you like the early caution for debris when Little E was running away with yesterday's race in Hotlanta?

This model of the Skyline is built off the V chassis, not the R chassis.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_skyline

:confused:
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_skyline#V35
 
It seems the V35 chassis is the pre-facelift G35 Coupe and Sedan. You would rather have that, estreka?

gt-r

It's hard to use the phrase 'best car' accurately, but, really, this new GT-R is as close as you can get to a true 'best performance car' available.
 
Want trouble-free, easily-repeatable six-figure (or better...) performance for a five-figure price tag? No prob.
 
Live in the snow-belt? No prob, you can drive it, and drive it fairly hard, in fact, every day of the year.
 
Have kids? No prob, it's got seats that will carry them in a pinch.
 
Wife can't drive stick? No prob, it works as a full auto and delivers shifts that beat any manual on the market.
 
Want safety? No prob, it's got all the latest.
 
I bet it will be a fraction of the cost to run and maintain, compared with any exotic that can run with it too.
 
Really, the only way I've seen it faulted consistently is in terms of driver involvment. Frankly, that seems like a very small trade-off for getting so much performance you can use basically every single day with no worries or stress.

"Live in the snow-belt? No prob, you can drive it, and drive it fairly hard, in fact, every day of the year."
 
On Bridgestone Potenza RE070 run-flat tires? That wouldn't be a very good idea. Even stock MY2004-2007 Subaru Impreza WRX STIs shouldn't be driven in the snow with their RE070 tires. I doubt the Dunlop SP Sport 600 summer tires on the MY2008 STI would fare any better.

There are already numerous videos of the GT-R being driven in snow, often with the VDC off, at speeds that would be impossible in something like a Z06, or certainly in any Ferrari. You wouldn't want to try to set lap records, obviously, but it's definitely been shown to be doable, especially if you just wanted to be able to get to work or the store or whatever.

"There are already numerous videos of the GT-R being driven in snow, often with the VDC off, at speeds that would be impossible in something like a Z06, or certainly in any Ferrari. You wouldn't want to try to set lap records, obviously, but it's definitely been shown to be doable, especially if you just wanted to be able to get to work or the store or whatever."
 
gossard267, the GT-R was on Bridgestone winter tires.
 
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=124712

The last interesting entry in this blog occured on February 21.

Why do you all even bother to have the 308 in your stable? Nobody even wants to drive the poor thing.
 
As a long term 'test' this is a complete joke.

Suby, what really pissed me off in that race was Carl Edwards having his engine problems. I picked him and Elliott Sadler for my fantasy picks and they finished 42nd and 43rd!

I guess you've got to start picking Camrys now. j/k :o)

Hmmm, I see what you mean Suby. I know the chassis is not based on the old R models, but rather the V-series. That makes it quite confusing, doesn't it? Though I suppose if Dodge can build a 4-door Charger, Nissan can be wishywashy about their frame designators. Either that or Wikipedia is simply wrong. *gasp!*

Every time someone comes out with a GTR, WSX, NSX, Z, 3000GT or whatever, journalists go on about how it stacks up against Ferrari.
 
In the meantime, nice early 308s (the fibreglass cars) are pushing $70K+, and look and sound like sports cars.
 
I'd take the Ferrari. No 'Intel inside' please. Give me a flat-plane crank in a DOHC V8 and leave the computers at work.

I'm suprised that some of you were able to tear yourselves away from Gran Turismo and your bag of Skittles long enough to post your effusive praise for the Nissan.
 
Why don't you all settle down with your favorite anime girlfriends and wait until someone actually compares a US spec GTR with it's competition before claiming it's the second coming of the Mach 5?

I'll take a 308 over the GT-R any day. I don't care how fast the GT-R is I have cars sitting in my garage right now that would pass the GT-R like it's going backwards sure they aren't as good as everyday cars and some not even street legal but I got my speed thing covered personally. Besides how fast are you going to seriously drive in one of these? You just don't go flying around doing sub 6 second 0-60 runs all the time or driving 180mph, not on the street.
 
So personally for a extra car in my personal collection I would rather have a 308 it's built with soul, passion, and a Ferrari is always cool even here in Ferrari saturated SoCal. Who cares how fast it is or if it doesn't have turbomaticdynamicubercontrol. A GT-R just isn't that special to me. I admire it's technology, speed, and drivability but it isn't a fast or cool car. Not to me.

Damn if that GT-R doesn't looks sexayyy in black!! And I can see alot of my G37 in it as well.....

Ferrari please. Enough said. :)

Oh goody another stupidly pointless blog comparing an icon with another "one of a bazillion" new cars... Would I like to have a GT-R over the Ferrari? Not particularly.... it's ugly for one thing. And at it's price point a ZR-1 or a Z06 makes a stonger arguement for me. Hell even the new CTS-V is a more dynamic looking car. Like srlracing said "the Ferrari is always cool". Nissans.... meh...

first thing I have to say is, GT-R is an icon, just not an American icon (yet?). In Japan, UK, Australia, etc... they know what's up
 
V35 vs R35, I think it's "V" in japan...
 
I think that the choice would be more difficult if it were a 355 or 360 vs the GT-R, but the 308 just doesn't do it for me so no contest, GT-R!

"There are already numerous videos of the GT-R being driven in snow, often with the VDC off, at speeds that would be impossible in something like a Z06, or certainly in any Ferrari."
 
As someone mentioned already, you won't be driving the GT-R in the snow with the summer tires it comes with. AWD isn't enough to compensate how bad the stock tires are in the snow. Tires make all the difference in snow.
 
While in theory you could swap out the GT-R's tires for snow tires, and the car would be great in the snow provided its not too deep (you still have very little ground clearance), I just don't see too many owners doing this with their GT-Rs. Keep in mind that even if your car is good in snow, you have to contend with salt, sand, rocks, and thousands of bad drivers with cars ready to slam into you. Do you want to subject your $70k+ GT-R to this kind of abuse and potential damage?
 
My Z06 will never see a flake of snow, and that's fine with me. A Z06 is like a fish out of the water in the snow. I could put snow tires on it and at least make it driveable in the snow, but what for? I have another dedicated snow vehicle: a 3/4 ton Suburban 4x4. Only thing better in the snow is a Snow Cat or a tank, and I could care less about salt, sand, rocks or even other cars hitting it.

Forzav, that's really funny, Skittles. If I picture someone playing Gran Turismo I guess I would see Cheetos and Rock Stars littering the coffee table, but Skittles are probably better since they won't get the controls all greasy.
  
But honestly does a car's appearance in a virtual world negate its real-world bona fides? GT gamers correct me, but don't all the hot cars show up there, including Ferrari, Porsche, etc....?

Actually, I'll take a Cayman S over either one, thanks.

"But honestly does a car's appearance in a virtual world negate its real-world bona fides? GT gamers correct me, but don't all the hot cars show up there, including Ferrari, Porsche, etc....?"
 
No, Sony couldn't get the license. No Ferrari's at all, but Porsche is represented by RUF

"Actually, I'll take a Cayman S over either one, thanks."
 
You gotta be kidding me. I don't think too many people share your sentiment. The Cayman S performs like a Pinto compared to the GT-R. Not even the same league.

The fastest isn't always the best, stingray454. It's all about balance and usable performance, for me at least. The GT-R is a King Kong supercar, more in league with the various incarnations of the 911 Turbo. I'd go crazy with frustration trying to use more than a tiny fraction of its capability on a regular basis. The Cayman S is a balanced, usable sports car--a dance partner, not a sparring partner. Besides, the GT-R is brutal looking, purposeful but not at all attractive to my eyes. And if "not too many people share [my] sentiment," then depreciation might put one in my price range sooner.

I would gladly take the GT-R :)

stephen987...
 
it's fine if you like the Cayman S for it's looks, but umm...all the praise for the GT-R is because it IS a USABLE sports car. look a couple of posts above saying how it can be auto or manumatic mode, AWD so you can drive the car in the snow if you wanted to, lots of speed, yet is still a ULEV vehicle.
 
Read the reviews and you will read that the car is capable for "anyone, anytime". Apples to Oranges, but the videos of the Porsche 911 Turbo vs GT-R, the consensus is how much easier it is to drive the GT-R
 
I have no experience driving either of these cars (obviously for the GT-R), just going by the reviews and the numbers

308.

In case some of you who read this only frequent the blogs and didn't see this article featured on the IL Home Page today:
 
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=125172
 
Part of me would've liked to see the 308 make a pull or two on the dyno. Who's with me?
 
Harman Motive is one of the best tuner shops in Southern California, especially for tuning Subarus. Dan Harman is also a fellow Trojan. :o)
 
The article said Mustang dynos read low. I'm not too sure about that. Below is the general belief on NASIOC. Take it with a grain of salt.
 
DynoLog = lowest reading
Dynodynamics = low
Mustang = Medium
DynoJet = highest reading dyno on earth
 
My lowly stage 1 2004 WRX (2.0L) put down 187 whp on a DynoLog dyno. I was pretty happy with the result. :o)

360 Challenge Stradale for me!